On 24 May 2014 00:06, Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com wrote:
OK, can you explain why you participate on Wikipediocracy?
Thanks, Edward! I was starting to worry that no one would ask.
Doesn't it strike you as odd that the question came from an active wikipediocracy memeber?
I participate on WO because I think every voice deserves to be heard.
And I will go wherever people feel comfortable speaking freely to hear
them.
You know where 4chan is I assume.
The trash talk. . . Most of the concerns I've heard about WO involve
the snarky, personal comments that are front and center in the forums. I know this makes it very difficult for many people to listen to anything else they have to say. I've called them out on this a few times, but I was reminded that everyone is there for different reasons and the trash talk somehow works for a few of them. What can I say? The great thing about free speech is that everyone is free to say anything. The only thing I can think of that might be better is that everyone is free to ignore anything. ;)
Again you cite free speech. In effect you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your activity is that it's not literally illegal (XKCD 1357 alt text)
Beyond the trash talk are some very real concerns from some very insightful people.
Thats your opinion. Wikipedia is a fairly mature project at this point. We are where we are as the result of over a decade of refinement by thousands of people with each of those refinements destruction tested against whatever the internet can throw at them.
If you're concerned about whether I'm getting accurate information, I don't take for granted anything said there without a secondary source- just like anything said here. Some of the concerns I've heard there seem to be taboo in the mainstream WP community.
Given the size of the project and your fairly breath interaction with it what makes you think that you are in a position to make that judgement?
It's very interesting that WO was brought up when I asked about Child Protection Policies, for example.
Not really. The issue had already been brought up on a thread on wikipediocracy that you were posting on. Makes your claim that "I'm just asking what the current policies are." lack a certain credibility.
Harassment Policy is another issue that seems to be unwelcome in some forums.
The relevant talk page has over 100 entries in its archives.
Finally, I ask everyone to respect my own right to free speech.
I'm not aware of anyone planning to have you arrested. The US right to free speech involves governments something wikipedia is not. Sure wikipedia is pretty extreme on the spectrum on the degree of speech is will allow but that doesn't change the fact your right to free speech is between you and your government.
I'm hoping to get to know all of the people in this forum better.
This is a mailing list for dealing with cross project issues. It isn't for getting to know people.
It's harder for me to follow along here because a lot of the stuff is very specific and often discussed with little context. I'll catch up. In the meantime, I'll continue asking questions,some of which may be inconvenient.
Eh as long as you stick to the relevant venue which is not really this mailing list. This is for people who already have the knowledge base and are trying to move into genuinely new areas or have hit an issue that can't be dealt with through the usual project level channels.
Like I said, I am not Lila; I'm that guy who asks stuff while everyone else is hoping he just keeps his mouth shut. :P
So not an editor?