I too question the need for a private mailing list. We should require more than a just a "consistent request" before we reduce transparency and create yet another walled garden away from the community.
--Ed On Oct 16, 2015 12:07 AM, "Pine W" wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Got it. Thanks Varnent.
Regarding the privacy question: I'm sort of thinking that if we really want to keep the new list private for legal or other reasons, it should be run outside of WMF servers like the chapters list is. On the other hand, if the purpose of the new list is to facilitate discussion among affiliates in a smaller and less public group while still being open to WMF employees to a limited degree, then the hosting proposed here makes sense. Personally, I get the sense that the affiliate and WMF relationships have generally (there are exceptions) warmed a bit over the past couple of years as affiliate governance and leadership have evolved and as WMF's evaluation capacity has improved, so I'm fine with the new design. Thanks for working on this.
Pine On Oct 15, 2015 8:55 PM, "Gregory Varnum" gregory.varnum@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Pine,
As you know, AffCom started looking into this list after some discussions with affiliates in Berlin, Wikimania, and at that page you referred to.
We
did talk with that list’s moderators about potentially reusing that list (largely why the creation of this list took awhile). However, ultimately, we decided to proceed with the creation of this list.
The old list is not on Wikimedia servers or officially connected to AffCom, so I cannot speak to its future. However, it has becoming increasingly inactive, is limited to chapters (so excludes a majority of our affiliates), and not something we have promoted recently. My personal hope is that this new broader list replaces that one over time, but that
is
not something we can “force” as it’s not a resource we officially help manage.
-greg (User:Varnent) Vice Chair, Affiliations Committee
On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Carlos,
Can you clarify how this list relates to the existing chapters mailing list? (Also, please see the discussion at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network#Mailing_li...
).
Thanks,
Pine
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Carlos M. Colina <
maorx@wikimedia.org.ve>
wrote:
Dear all,
On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a
place
for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user groups)
to
discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to other affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide events.
The
idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across our
movement,
plus collaborative discussions like community-wide activities, joint edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts, or other communications from affiliates.
Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the
mailing
list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to request additional spots if needed.
Please find a bit more information on Meta:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mai...
and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
Regards, Carlos -- "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee
wayuukanairua
junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya
junain."
Carlos M. Colina Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 |
www.wikimedia.org.ve
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