I don't think the costs are the issue here, neither if there is streaming or not (and I don't think we need to have one. It's WMCconf, not Wikimania).
But we have strict rule - two representatives, 3 if you have ED. I also saw that some chapters have more than that, and I really don't know why. If they are coming as speakers to one of the sessions - I hope their participation and attending in the venue area will be limit only to this session only (and then it will be really waste of money). This is also relevant by the way (from my point of view) to WMDE staff/board that are not part of conference staff.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi, When there is enough money to go around, efficacy should be the primary consideration. When charitable funds are available and they are not spend because of misplaced frugality, it is obvious to me that priorities are out of kilter.
Your second arguments makes more sense but also up to a point. When the bigger chapters are more able to do what is right by all chapters, it means that they should be present and listen more and impose less. When the German chapter sends fewer people, it does not imply that what these people have to say carries less weight. When fewer people mean that the existing needs for us as a world community are not heard, it is not effective at all. When people are effective at a conference and are the ones who decide on how to move forward, where to spend money they should be at the conferences where the combined efforts may be aligned.
Money should only be a consideration when there is not enough and when it is not spend effectively. Thanks, GerardM
On 31 March 2014 14:34, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 March 2014 12:02, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi, Video conferencing is ok-ish.. at best. It does not give you the opportunity that face to face communications gives you. It does not
allow
you to get through the fog of misunderstanding, Really, when the right people go for the right reasons, it pays its dividents.
Cost is only one criteria to measure things by. What would you consider
as
relevant for more people to go ? Thanks, Gerard
Yes absolute cost is only one measure, but should remain a primary one when judging if the charitable funds of our movement are being spent wisely.
Another consideration is past concern from smaller chapters that this meeting was being overwhelmed with the viewpoint of the larger and better funded chapters that found it easiest to travel to Berlin, or pay employees to attend. This is probably a reason why the German chapter, compared to the UK chapter, is sending a relatively modest number of people to represent their chapter at the conference they are actually hosting.
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