Hoi, I have been playing with the tool for some time and it is already great; it works and it is a great basis to expand on. Expand its functionality and data quality.
I added a label in Urdu in Wikidata for "Mujaddid Ahmad Ijaz" and once the synchronisation was done, I found a wealth of pictures for him. That IS powerful and demonstrates how labeling in Wikidata improves results in Commons. I looked for "Frans Vera", a Dutch ecologists, not really finding him in a lot of noisy results. There was one picture of him, I linked it to his Wikidata item and after the synchronisation he was the first result. That IS powerful because it shows how the linking to Wikidata of pictures improves results.
As it is, it has important qualifications over Hay's tool and what Hay has done is breaking ground. Now we know about the official proof of concept; it has important advantages; * it is internationalised and gets localised daily. * it is already included in Commons so it will/must scale. * it is supported by the WMF
One key question for me is; do we know its use. Do we know in what language it is used? When people start using it for real, will we know? Commons has enormous potential and it is now for us to make this a reality. One challenge will be to convince me to use it. I do want to be convinced and I am seeking for the arguments but in the end the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Keegan, I understand that as a technical guy you prefer to take it slowly,
For the WMF this is probably the biggest opportunity to remedy much of its bias against all the "other" languages. I will blog and write about my experiences because this has the potential to transform us into a truly multi lingual movement as we now have ties that binds everything together. Ties that are in and of themselves are useful in any language. Thanks, GerardM
On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 18:57, Keegan Peterzell kpeterzell@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 8:12 AM Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
It’s worth remembering that this functionality is built in to Commons, it’s just not as user-friendly. From the example below, if you put "haswbstatement:P180=Q191931” into the Commons searchbox, you will get
the
same results. Thanks to the structured data on commons project+team!
This is true.
The Structured Data team is working on a media search prototype that is similar in function to Hay's tool. It's in the very earliest of early stages, that is to say that it works, and the team would like to hear feedback.
Have a look over the project page if you're interested to see what a tool like Hay's could look like on Commons itself: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Structured_data/Media_search
Comments welcome on the talk page, I'm slowly spreading the word about this.
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