*I do see two other problems with WLM, which are (...) involvement of the chapters as a precondition
Be organized by a Chapter is *not* a condition. The Andorra WLM is organized by Amicalhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Associaci%C3%B3_Amical_Viquip%C3%A8dia(who is not a chapter). If any country want to participate next year, you people don't want to have a chapter to organize it. _____ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos.*
On 12 September 2011 06:49, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:51:33 +0900, KIZU Naoko aphaia@gmail.com wrote:
Off topic alert:
I haven't given a closer look to your main topic, Milos, so I cannot give a responsible statement in any way. But your reference to Wiki Loves Monuments, while I agree it's heavily Europe-focused, I strongly disagree with you on its decadency, as an (retired) aesthetic. While the determination what artworks are heavily depends on the community to appreciate, so partly I understand your concern, if WLM is carried on only by European chapter people, it can hardly of NPOV at some future moment, but artworks belong to the critical part of "the sum of human knowledge" along with the information who created them and then have appreciated or rejected them.
Only countries which have lists of monuments compiled by the government and having the status of the law are eligible for WLM. This is in some sense POV but no more POV than say writing articles of members of parliament who were elected by direct vote. If Japan has such a list (I hope it does) next year it would be eligible to participate. My understanding is that somehow the organizers did not expect such interest and did not try to contact chapters outside Europe. Presumably next year they will do. On the other hand, by the next year some of the European countries may exhaust their monuments (in the sense that the most of the pictures will be taken and the articles written or judged to be impossible to write). Thus, NPOV does not seem to be a problem to me.
I do see two other problems with WLM, which are (i) competition format, which implicitly stimulates certain strategies we normally do not want to stimulate; (ii) involvement of the chapters as a precondition - some countries do not have chapters, some chapters showed no interest, some were unable to organize anything in the end. But I am not sure such discussion belongs to this thread.
Cheers Yaroslav
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