About my comment above: I was referring ONLY in WMF grants. In Greek wikipedia things are very weird and sad when people are being accused of paid editing just for getting a WMF grant through the process that we all know and always making a good and honest use of the wikimedia logos. The ones who lightheartedly accuse people so easily are the ones who need to have their interests or use of logos be checked.
Best regards to all Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής
Στις 7 Σεπ 2018 02:34, ο χρήστης "Pine W" wiki.pine@gmail.com έγραψε:
Definitely one needs to be careful when dealing with paid editing that it's done in a transparent way and in a way that benefits the encyclopedia. I think that the English Wikipedia community has generally accepted that Wikimedians-in-Residence can do paid editing in a way that is beneficial to the encyclopedia. I would like to see more of the good and less of the bad. Money can certainly be a corrupting influence, but it can also support good activities that otherwise wouldn't occur or would occur with less frequency and quality.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 10:29 PM Ανώνυμος Βικιπαιδιστής < anonymuswikipedian@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortunately it s been said in Greek wikipedia that people that take grants are paid editors. And that came from people who already taken
grants
for their projects in the past. Dark times in Greek wikipedia...
Στις Τρί, 4 Σεπ 2018 - 00:03 ο χρήστης Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com έγραψε:
Hello colleagues,
A topic which I feel that I should address again on this mailing list is revenue for Wikimedia work, specifically WMF and non-WMF sources of revenue.
I will start by talking about my personal situation, and then discuss
some
related situations.
I am currently requesting a grant from WMF. I cannot afford afford to
work
on this project in a sustainable way without funding, and I feel that I
am
making a request that is reasonably aligned with market rates for
someone
with my current level of skills and knowledge, but I feel conflicted
about
requesting funding from WMF because of the potential for difficulties between WMF and the community, especially because of the potential that
I
would be reluctant to express my views regarding WMF due to fear of
losing
WMF funding. (I'm not linking to my grant request here because I don't
want
this email to give the impression that I'm using this topic to ask for community endorsements for my grant request.)
Similarly, *The Signpost *is labor-intensive to produce, and I would
like
for funding to be available for the more prolific *Signpost
*contributors
so that they have a good reason to treat their labor for The Signpost as part time jobs. However, it would be difficult to maintain the editorial independence of *The Signpost *from WMF if the contributors (especially contributors to the "News and Notes" and "In the Media" sections, and
the
contributors who are responsible for the overall editing and publication of *The Signpost*) received funding from WMF.
There are many other areas in the Wikimedia community where there is
enough
work that is not getting done by volunteers, and/or where volunteers can put in so many hours that they can get burnt out, that I think that
non-WMF
funding would be good to make available for contributors who would like
to
work in these areas. Two examples are investigations of undisclosed paid editing, and translation and development of medical content.
With Kaarl's cooperation (thank you, Kaarl) I have requested that two
of
the WMF strategy working groups consider non-WMF funding for Wikimedia
work
as a part of their discussions.
I would like for significant non-WMF revenue to be available for
Wikimedia
work. I think that this could be arranged with WMF's cooperation,
although
there is a long journey between saying that "I think that this could be arranged" and having a successful system in place.
If you have thoughts that you would like to share on this topic, then I hope that you will comment here on this mailing list, or in some other appropriate location such as one or both of the relevant strategy talk pages ([1 <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Wor...
]
or [2 <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Wor...
]).
Let me make a specific invitation to WMF employees to share your
thoughts.
I would like to hear your comments, both official and personal, if that
is
okay and if you would like to comment.
Thank you,
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