Hoi, With all due respect. These templates are probably English Wikipedia only. Consequently they are not available on a Wikimedia level. Thanks, GerardM
On 29 August 2017 at 13:39, Richard Farmbrough richard@farmbrough.co.uk wrote:
We have a number of source specific templates, such as {{EB1911}} for acknowledging re-used source material. There is as yet no automatic mechanism for changing these as and when the actual copying is replaced entirely.
On 28 Aug 2017 01:18, "Gnangarra" gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
but the information is exactly the same, url, date, author, title - the refn template can include anything you need to add including license
detail
ie cc-by all of which can be internal or external links
On 28 August 2017 at 00:26, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com wrote:
Citation and reuse is two different things.
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com
wrote:
that notice states that text has been used, a specific citation where
the
text would add context by using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Template:Refn
On 27 August 2017 at 22:22, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com
wrote:
Use of a template does not accurately identify the copied text, and
in
this
case nor the author.
The license is the contract with the author and the reason why the
text
can
be copied. If the license says the author shall be identified, the
by
attribution clause, then a link to the site is not good enough. If
the
share alike clause is given, then it is even harder to give correct
credit,
as the request for credit can be pretty weird.
Anyhow, a page that is later edited is not necessarily something
the
external editor has created, he or she has created a part that at
some
point in time was incorporated in the page, and the present page
may
not
even contain this content anymore.
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com
wrote:
There is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:CC-notice on en
at
least
specifically for the purpose of incorporating text licensed cc-by
content
within articles
On 27 August 2017 at 21:28, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com
wrote:
> In some cases we need to attribute content created on external
sites,
and
> reused on Wikimedia-sites. In Norway Åndsverksloven says "The
creator
has
> the right to be named according to good practice"
("Opphavsmannen
har
krav > på å bli navngitt slik som god skikk tilsier") and for our
content
that
is > given by our license and our terms of use. That means by a link
to
the
page > if possible, or if possible an entry in the history. > > Now we use a template on the page itself, or similar, but it is
not
the
> page on our site that the external entity has provided, they
have
provided > the content at their site. So we must say that in some
consistent
way.
> > I believe that the best option would be to have a log entry
injected
into
> the history for our page that says "this revision comes in full
or
part
> from that external source". Such an entry could be made by the
editor
or
by > an administrator, but must be made as an extension of the
revision.
It
> should also be possible to delete such an entry. > > An alternative could be to make the summary editable, but the
summary
is
> the description of the revision, not the source of the
revision.
> > Does this make sense? Will it solve the problem, or is it just
another
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