Excuse for what? Whatever process is used needs to have integrity to be accepted. We are supposed to be inclusive and transparent, right?
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 15:15 David Gerard <dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Forgive me, but this is coming across as hopping from excuse to excuse. On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 18:03, Dennis During dcduring@gmail.com wrote:
It is important that any wiki process be applied fairly. In this case I think the Croatian wiki cannot be the first to have a new process
applied.
I hope that the process that Gerard recommends has been validated in some way that meets with broad, nearly universal approval.
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi, We have a database with all the citations of all Wikipedias. That
database
is integrated in wikidata as we speak. What we should do is eat our own medicine and compare sources on the same subject when the subject is controversial. Our overriding policy is for Wikipedia to have a neutral point of view. So while Croation sources are fine, they need to be
balanced
for a NPOV. When sources with a different viewpoint are available,
ignoring
them is not an option.
At the same time, there are sources that have been found to be untrustworthy. At some stage, sources, any and all sources can be
assessed
and even rejected.
Admins and bureaucrats have their authority because they promise to
adhere
to the universal Wikipedia policies, the other reason is the trust
their
community gave them at one time. In the end, we have the mechanisms
and the
methods to assess the NPOV and the quality of articles. We have the mechanisms and methods to assess the functioning of people who are
trusted
to adhere to our policies. Thanks, GerardM
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 19:15, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com
wrote:
History does not require a judge. It's the storiography to be judge.
Here the problem is to give relevance to some sources and to neglect (completely) others.
If a single not neutral source is considered as the Holy Bible, the
same
pillars of Wikipedia are infringed.
Kind regards
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:06 Dennis During <dcduring@gmail.com wrote:
Who is the judge? Are we going to join Facebook, Google, Twitter,
et al
as
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