I think methodological objections shouldn't prevail over substantial objections. I can agree most of consensus in CoC draft came from WMF staffers/contractors, but: *no one was prevented from weighing-in *lists were filled with invitations to weigh-in *I think most of us didn't comment just because they agree with the overall meaning of the draft. IMHO most of criticism doesn't actually target the draft but rather increasing influence of WMF in various sectors traditionally community-driven or unregulated. I'm not commenting nor this influence nor the objections but I think CoC is just a symbol of another issue.
Vito
2017-02-26 15:31 GMT+01:00 Robert Fernandez wikigamaliel@gmail.com:
Personally I'm much more grateful for the people who did not spend their energy on this code of conduct to "accidentally" exercise power over others
If the organizers of this proposal responded in kind with even a fraction of the bad faith accusations that have been leveled at them, the howls of outrage would be deafening.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Tim Landscheidt tim@tim-landscheidt.de wrote:
Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
[…]
On a separate note to those of you who contribute to technical spaces
and
are not happy about how some aspects have gone:
Matthew and a few other people have been trying /really hard/ to make Wikimedia's technical spaces better. You know that embarking on such a
path
is very difficult: it requires spending many many hours of your time
(read
life) on it, elaborating, deliberating, documenting, discussing things
with
people from different paths of life, etc. They have been doing it for months now. It's my understanding that they are doing this not to
exercise
power over others but to make our technical spaces better, to make them more enjoyable to contribute in.
For all of us who contribute in technical spaces, we should remember:
We
may not agree with every step they take, but we all owe it to them to
help
them on this path. What they are doing is a good thing and that's
something
that sometimes gets lost in these lengthy conversations.
This is a circular and illogical argument. Just because someone has good intentions or invested time and effort does not mean that the path they chose is the right one to take. And if someone is steering towards a cliff, encouraging peo- ple to keep pushing the cart to honour the navigator's dedi- cation is self-destructive.
Personally I'm much more grateful for the people who did not spend their energy on this code of conduct to "accidentally" exercise power over others, but made our technical spaces better and more enjoyable by reporting bugs, debugging, an- swering questions, writing patches, reviewing contributions or creating or translating documentation.
Tim
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