Also +1 to Guillaume's comment, I couldn't have said better. A user-friendly forum, like discuss-space is most needed by those, who want to join the movement, whom the WMF wants to attract, not to those who are comfortable with the current solutions.
And IRC being an appropriate real-time platform? It's a serious privacy violation with the IP addresses published. It took me an hour to learn about cloaks (to hide the IP) and find someone, who would add a cloak... how many newbies would do that? IRC also goes against the wiki way with "forgetting" all the history, about which I always had concerns besides that it's very impractical: long-term discussions cannot take place or the user has to be always online...
Aron (Demian)
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 23:32, Guillaume Paumier gpaumier@wikimedia.org wrote:
That perspective suffers from a lack of empathy. "The tools we already
have" may work for the limited sample of the population who are currently using them. Assuming that that sample is representative is flawed and is a classic example of survivorship bias. If we have learned anything from the Space experiment and from years of strategy discussions, it is that the tools we currently have do not, in fact, work just fine for a large number of people, whose voices are missing from our discussions and content.
-- Guillaume Paumier (he/him)