Thankyou Pharos for expressing the issue so clearly.
In the last 2 days, purely as part of our Wikimedia projects, I have felt /obliged/ to contribute to discussions on Telegram, Twitter, Facebook, Zoom and IRC (and at least 2 other platforms in a passive way). All of these discussion spaces are used by our community to talk about our Wikimedia community issues or to work together in parallel to the normal and more permanent on-wiki talk pages of Wikipedia, Commons, Meta... Honestly, I do not see the point of spinning off a fringe Wikimedia alternate that in practice cannot be expected to match the well tested and well-understood capabilities of the mainstream applications.
Fae
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 20:18, Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
On 18 Feb 2020, at 19:53, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 8:49 AM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Phase V confirmed! -- I hope this means related features (a calendar + forum :) are getting included in mediawiki propre...
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Indeed, it has been a mistake to keep spinning off new discussion platforms, in the hope that the next one will be different and
controllable
and totally replace everything else. This has been an anti-pattern for a decade. Far better to make a real investment (including both a social
and a
technical investment) in the actual community platforms based on
MediaWiki,
where many of the ideas that were developed for Space could be rather
more
fruitfully applied, and the existing eforts by good people not be put to waste.
I completely agree - investing in the core platform the way to go. See you all on-wiki with everyone else?
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