On 11/22/05, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
Anthere wrote:
The same problem exist for andalousian language. Many anon votes. Sockpuppetry chances raise high as well.
In short, the voting system as is is a pure joke. What do you suggest ?
Currently everyone seems to acknowledge that the existing system is no longer functional. When Angela came up with it, it was a very good solution to the problem that we faced at that time, but as time has gone on, and we have more and more Wikipedias and we are more and more well known, that system has broken down. We run the risk of making very poor judgments, being hoaxed, etc.
- I do not support the concept of a "seed wiki" because the test of
what is a proper decision in this area does not depend solely on the ability of a motivated group of people to push their agenda. I have no doubt whatsoever but that we could have a successful (in the sense of article count and participation) wiki in "pig latin dialect" (a joke language seen in many humorous machine translators on the net) if a group of funny people decided to make it. A seed wiki is not the answer.
This is a strawman. Having a "seed wiki" doesn't imply that we allow small groups to push their agenda nor does it imply that a "pig latin" Wikipedia would develop.
A "seed wiki" is not a wiki where anything goes, it's simply a wiki where a developer doesn't have to get involved in trying out a new project idea. Should Wikipedia limit new article creation to developers, because otherwise we'll wind up with articles written in pig latin? There will always be rules in a seed wiki. If you don't want "pig latin" wikis, then you set the rules so that they aren't allowed.
(For non-native English speakers who don't know what 'pig latin' is, it is a way of speaking English practiced mostly by either parents trying to say things in front of children in a way that children don't understand, or spoken by children for fun once they learn the trick.
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