Hoi, It is in the in the way we present the Wikimedia Foundation; in interviews and in presentations the English language Wikipedia dominates. When something is done in the English Wikipedia it is news. Something of equal relevance in another project is not. When you consider the massive improvements that have happened in Wiktionary ... Nobody knows, seems to care. This is the pattern. When people discuss technical developments it does not happen when it is not of relevance for the English Wikipedia. Who cares that there is no language file in MediaWiki for a fifth of the languages we say MediaWiki supports ?
Really, I do care for other things then for the English language Wikipedia. I have found that I should not rely on anyone if something needs to get done because it is almost certain that not much will happen. I am thrilled that the WMF is getting its house in order. I hope that with more developers we will finally see some code accepted / finished. The backlog is overwhelming.
With things getting more and more organised, with the notion of fundraising to become a foundation activity, I hope that many cool mash ups will be realised. There is so much we are in a position to do if we had the will, the man power and the endurance to do them. Really If you ask me I hope that the WMF will raise EUR 4.000.000,- and will put all this money to work.
Thanks, GerardM
On 10/23/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
James Forrester wrote:
On 22/10/2007, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
on 10/22/07 6:19 PM, GerardM at gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with your sentiments. However, this is the Foundation list and
it is
largely an English language Wikipedia phenomena. I do not feel that it
is an
issue that I should deal with because I am not really connected to
what
happens on the English language Wikipedia. Even though it is "not
good"TM it
is not something that feels like "us" to me. It is you lot of the
English
language Wikipedia that have to deal with it.
We in the English Wikipedia do have a lot of our act to clean up.
Absolutely.
However, I think it is fair to say that if the toxicity of the English Wikipedia at this point is so great as to impact on the Foundation (e.g. on the Foundation's ability to raise money), then that is definitely a matter for the list.
If necessary, the Wikimedia community at large will have to take action to "fix" the English Wikipedia community - but "coup" is such an ugly word. :-)
The most frightening implication in what Gerard says is that some smaller projects might take the behaviour on the English Wikipedia as a role model.
Ec
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