Risker raises the point of moderating research requests. I do not want to comment on this survey in particular, but in general, many researchers target the wiki community continually. We do not have community capacity to endlessly complete surveys, and I would like survey moderation.
Access to the wiki community is a privilege because we all pay a cost when anyone makes a request for time, attention, and labor. Wiki community time is not an unlimited free asset for the world to solicit.
Here is a live discussion about this centered on something I wrote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Background
here it is archived. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)...
James, I appreciate your interest in research. I do wish you would register your research and conform to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:New_project but currently, we have no wiki community rules that say for people to register research. If anyone is upset about your research, then I wish that the response to be to set general policy and practices for the many surveyors and researchers seeking labor from Wiki community spaces and not only look at this one channel, and this one survey.
thanks -
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:48 PM James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
The "agenda" is shared by a majority of the survey respondents so far. Why are these questions so offensive to the vocal minority who have demanded that they not be discussed? Many nonprofit organizations depending on volunteer labor advocates for social changes in support of those volunteers, including by lobbying.
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:05 AM Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
I regret to say that I feel James has abused this forum once again for
his
own personal agenda, much of which is unrelated even indirectly to the
WMF
or the Wikimedia movement. Further, I feel that he has done so in a way that is deceptive to members of this mailing list, and that his actions
are
an abuse of the trust of the members of this mailing list.
Generally speaking, I'm pretty tolerant of people bringing different perspectives and ideas to this mailing list; however, I believe this is a step too far for someone who has been asked in the past on multiple occasions to stay on topic. I am not sure that James needs to remain a contributor to this list.
Risker/Anne
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 11:56, James Salsman jsalsman@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 1:23 AM Kevin Payravi kevinpayravi@gmail.com wrote:
I've heard confusion from a couple folks and want to make sure it's
clear
here that this survey is coming from you as an individual, Jim, and
has
no
origination or coordination with the Foundation - correct?
Yes, the survey is just from me, not the Foundation. I'm trying to encourage the Executive Director to bring back the "Letter to Donors" which was discontinued for reasons unknown, but not the explanation given to me at the time, that it was forbidden by law:
https://twitter.com/jsalsman/status/998272655995240449 https://twitter.com/SuePGardner/status/998302792946102273
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 3:44 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) <djgwiki@gmail.com
wrote:
... (free healthcare, universal basic income, etc.) have very little
to
do with the Foundation's mission.
That is precisely the matter of opinion which the survey measures. The idea that the abundance of contributors would not increase under the proposals is clearly not shared by most, and whether that means contributors would therefore be "empowered" by them is subjective.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 8:21 PM James Salsman <jsalsman@gmail.com
wrote:
Happy 18th birthday to Wikipedia!
What does it mean for the Wikimedia Foundation to empower contributors? Please share your opinion of what the Wikimedia Foundation's mission statement means when it describes empowering people to collect and develop educational content:
The survey results are summarized after form submission.
Best regards, Jim Salsman
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