Hi all,
what Rubin says I think is that when the decision was made, WMF did not notify WM RU.
The complete lack of communication.
NOT what was discussed above; that was a complete misunderstanding of his words.
What Rubin says in my reading is that once WMF made the decision, they should have
1) analyze what questions and reaction will it generate and identify in which community(-ies) 2) prepare taylor-made answers for the expected and a reply strategy with clear guidelines for the unexpected questions (even better: a press-release) 3) notify the affected (WMRU) about the decision, prepare them for the situation, give them the questions and teach them the answers and the reply strategy (and probably do the same with other closely knit communities, like WM UKR) and/or give them the press release 4) only then execute the decision and close the Russian donation channels.
this is imo a pretty clear and reasonable request. Not to say very common act at large international companies when they for example close a factory somewhere.
Balázs 2014.11.14. 22:01, "rubin.happy" rubin.happy@gmail.com ezt írta:
That's not the first, and even not the 10th attempt of our authorities to create own Wikipedia, own YouTube and so on.
They will talk about it, they could even spend some budget but it's not likely to result in something that will be sustainable and popular.
PS: I really believed that we will see some sufficient comment from WMF about particular reasons, local laws changed that caused such block of fundraising, etc. but my trust in WMF is leaving me from day to day. I am really disappointed that WMF puts some own interests as a priority and ignores questions from the local community of not the smallest project - Russian Wikipedia.
Imagine that such user as me who is the oldest 'crat of ru.wiki, has long history of contribution to local and global Wikimedia activities, already doesn't believe that it was a justified and reasonable decision and not political action by WMF. And now imagine what new or inexperienced readers and editors in Russia should think when they hear about such an unfriendly action from company based in the USA, the country we have not perfect relations with at the moment
I am tired of knocking to the closed door, so, let it be as it is, I don't care about it anymore: we have local activities, we have sensible editors (not only in ru.wiki but also in other projects as comments to this mailing list have shown), so, we should work for the overall idea despite some existing inefficiencies like WMF. 14 нояб. 2014 г. 23:31 пользователь "Federico Leva (Nemo)" < nemowiki@gmail.com> написал:
Dorożyński Janusz, 14/11/2014 14:59:
Really, we want help and we can help, especially locals, i.e. Russian folks.
Too late? It seems the Russian government immediately seized the opportunity of a weaker position of Wikipedia in the public opinion. (You probably already saw, but anyway.)
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/11/14/us-russia-wikipedia-alternative-
idINKCN0IY1YT20141114
They have a habit of sanctions and counter-sanctions by now...
Nemo
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