On 10 September 2014 11:01, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 10 September 2014 18:59, James Forrester jforrester@wikimedia.org wrote:
Eh. I'm not particularly interested in building features that only work
in
VE and not wikitext, and particularly not in ones that would require changing both the wikitext used to write talk pages for the benefit of VE users and disrupting wikitext. We can, and we must, do better than that. (But yes, I imagine the additional ease of VE here would be significant.)
Yeah, special markup in this case is an annoyance. I'm picturing n00bs using the VE (newbies I throw at the VE *love* it *so much* ... I need to try them on adding a reference) and going "... ah. There's discussion on this point."
Indeed, one of the uses of this model of content-centred-discussion combined with real-time collaborative editing that we're going to add to VisualEditor eventually, could be letting newbies call out for help mid-edit and admins/helpers/etc. could swoop in and show them how to add a reference; at the end of the edit, these discussions could get archived or just thrown away, depending on what works.
But now I'm just selling products we haven't built yet, which is a bit unfair. :-)
J.