Hi Todd,
If you are active in Commons, and demonstrably understand copyright, ToO, DeMinimis, FOP, you are very welcome as a sysop there, AFAIK: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators
There are some minimal requests of participation, which should not be an obstacle for anyone fairly active there.
Best, Paulo
Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com escreveu no dia domingo, 12/05/2019 à(s) 22:43:
I wouldn't even have any idea what I'd need to do to be a sysop on Commons. I frequently do find copyvio images and nominate them for deletion on Commons while working on the English Wikipedia spam queue (and yes, I'm familiar with copyright law, and they have all, to my knowledge, indeed been found to be copyvios and deleted), but I wouldn't even have the first clue to what being a Commons admin would entail or what the expectations are.
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 2:28 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com> wrote:
Anyone doing Commons stuff has to do have Commons skills. Wikipedia
sysops
are not asked to have them, and do not have them by default.
If Wikipedia sysops that deal with copyright want to be Commons admins, they can apply anytime for that role. Otherwise, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's.
Paulo
Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com escreveu no dia domingo, 12/05/2019 à(s) 21:13:
Major projects surely deal with a significant amount of uploads in an efficient way.
Vito
Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 17:31 Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com> ha scritto:
I absolutely disagree with this. A Wikipedia sysop do not necessarily
has -
and from my experience, most of the time hasn't - the necessary
skills
to
deal with copyright.
Best, Paulo
A domingo, 12 de mai de 2019, 14:35, Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com escreveu:
I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to delete/undelete
images
on
commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky commons' uploads
come
from
cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them could work.
Vito
Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman <
jmh649@gmail.com
ha scritto:
It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons
interested
in
having more admins?
James
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
> A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay
for
> access to the Google image matching API access so we could run
a
> copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not
be
> terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment
to
see
> if this aspect of the more boring side of sysop tools could be > reduced.[1] > > Not specifically advocating auto-deletion, but daily
housekeeping
> image matches to highly likely copyrighted categories would
make
mass
> housekeeping very easy. > > A separate old chestnut was my proposal to introduce systemic
image
> hashes, which neatly show "close" image matches.[2] With a
Commons
hat
> on, such a project would be of far more immediate pragmatic use
than
> mobile-related and structured data-related projects that seem
to
suck
> up all the oxygen and volunteer time available. > > Note that the history of these project/funding ideas is so
long,
that
> several of the most experienced long term volunteers that were > originally interested have since retired. Without some positive
short
> term encouragement, not only do these ideas never reach the
useful
> experiment stage, but the volunteers involved simply fade away. > > Links > 1. >
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2016/02#Goog...
> 2. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Imagehash > > Fae > > On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani <
ladsgroup@gmail.com
wrote: > > > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores
support
for > > images that might be copyright violation, or both. > > > > Best > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter <
ymbalt@gmail.com
> wrote: > > > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared
with
the
> amount of > > > material it has to deal with. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Yaroslav > > > > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta < > benjaminikuta@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing
or
capable > to > > > do > > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <
polimerek@gmail.com>
> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all
undeleted.
> > > > > > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing
several
> > > GLAM-related > > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page
describing
> what it > > > > is > > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then
you
can
> create a > > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them. > > > > > > > > > > See:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
> > > > > > > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes
with
> Common's > > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to
promote
you
> > > project > > > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to
do
something > > > > similar. > > > > > > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for
uploaders,
but
on
> the > > > > other > > > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds of copyright
violating
> > > files a > > > > > day: > > > > > > > > > > See the list from just one day: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01
> > > > > > > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins
have
to
cope
> with > > > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and
after
some
> time - > > > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves...
and
the
other > > > issue > > > > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents. > > > > > > > > > > I think - sooner or later - all this system - uploads -
screening
> > > uploads > > > > > by admins, and OTRS agreements - needs deep rethinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 10:48 Mister Thrapostibongles < > > > > > thrapostibongles@gmail.com> napisał(a): > > > > > > > > > >> Hello all, > > > > >> > > > > >> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and
the
Commons
> > > > components > > > > >> of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia
Commons: a
> highly > > > > >> hostile place for multimedia students contributions"
at
the
> Education > > > > >> Newsletter > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Comm...
> > > > >> > > > > >> As far as I can understand it, some students on an
Outreach
> project > > > > >> uploaded some rather well-made video material, and
comeone
on
> Commons > > > > >> deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be
student
> projects > > > > and > > > > >> so concluded they were copyright violations. But some
rather
odd > > > > remarks > > > > >> were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of
uploaded
> > > > copyrighted > > > > >> content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco
that
doesn't > > > care." > > > > >> and > > > > >> "you have regarded Commons as little more than free
cloud
storage > for > > > > >> images you intend to use on Wikipedia ". > > > > >> > > > > >> Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute? > > > > >> > > > > >> Thrapostibongles > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > >>
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