On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:33 AM Luis Villa luis@lu.is wrote:
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:03 AM Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
Certainly, any "database rights" should already be considered waived by the CC license ...
No.
All from CC BY-SA 4.0:
1.d:* "Copyright and Similar Rights* means copyright and/or similar rights closely related to copyright including ... Sui Generis Database Rights ... 1.h: *Licensed Material* means the ... database ... to which the Licensor applied this Public License. 1.l: *Sui Generis Database Rights* means rights other than copyright resulting from Directive 96/9/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 11 March 1996 on the legal protection of databases, as amended and/or succeeded, as well as other essentially equivalent rights anywhere in the world.
*Section 4 – Sui Generis Database Rights.*
Where the Licensed Rights include Sui Generis Database Rights that apply to Your use of the Licensed Material:
- for the avoidance of doubt, Section 2(a)(1)
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s2a1 grants You the right to extract, reuse, reproduce, and Share all or a substantial portion of the contents of the database; 2. if You include all or a substantial portion of the database contents in a database in which You have Sui Generis Database Rights, then the database in which You have Sui Generis Database Rights (but not its individual contents) is Adapted Material, including for purposes of Section 3(b) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s3b; and 3. You must comply with the conditions in Section 3(a) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s3a if You Share all or a substantial portion of the contents of the database.
For the avoidance of doubt, this Section 4 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s4 supplements and does not replace Your obligations under this Public License where the Licensed Rights include other Copyright and Similar Rights.
And to be clear, I think this was a mistake and told CC that at the time; the basics of why I feel that way I collected a year or so later as https://lu.is/blog/2016/09/12/copyleft-and-data-database-law-as-poor-platfor... and some subsequent posts. But 4.0 is what it is - an attempt to shoehorn database rights into a copyright license.
Luis