On 4 October 2015 at 15:17, Mathias Damour mathias.damour@laposte.net wrote:
Le 04/10/2015 05:36, Craig Franklin a écrit :
I take your point Pine, but "improving communication with the community" seems to have been a WMF priority for as long as I can remember, yet there doesn't seem to have been any consistent improvement, as we can see here. A new approach and direction to how matters like this are communicated is clearly needed, because the current one doesn't seem to be working at all.
I wouldn't say that the WMF communication is simply bad, it is pretty professional.
The communication team are good, but this isnt the fault of the communication team but rather the Wikimania Committee. Its outright disgusting and heads should roll for the last ten-twelve years Wikimania bidding and process have been in one place on meta, and even now this place continue to imply that nothing has changed. A month before the whole process starts it get shelved in secret for a new process. The people involved on the Wikimania Committee know a bid starts months before the actual bidding process opens.
As for the process In returning to North America within two years, it will now be 2018 5 uears since it last was outside of these two regions before anywhere else will see the event, given its already been stated as SE Asia that also means that Africa, Middle East, Oceana, South America, the Sub continent and Eastern Europe will have to wait until 2021 for an opportunity even then only one will get that.
This doesnt create incentive for people to be involved with Wikimania planning , in fact it clearly states that if your outside of Europe or North America your really not part of our movement but we'll tolerate you to make us look like we care, and we're global in Europe. There was nothing wrong with the Wikimania process as it stood we all knew going that it takes a lot of energy, time and resources for potentially no return.... now there's nothing there's no incentive its going to be 6,9,12 years before other communities will be given some crumbs
It may rather be that an open communication and keeping control on the greater part of the decisions (or even conducting the users of the projets themself, as an average internet company does), are "two tendancies that are not fully compatible" (to borrow Florence's words).
-- Mathias Damour [[User:Astirmays]]
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