Chris Jenkinson wrote:
Anthere wrote:
I guess that this policy is approved for now. if you have further comments, please add them in the talk page. I archived all the discussions, if you wish some to be kept on the live page, please move them back.
Can we have some clarifications of "disruptive" (as in "Where the user has been vandalising pages or persistently behaving in a disruptive way") and "reasonably necessary" and "safety" (as in "Where it is reasonably necessary to protect the rights, property or safety of the Wikimedia Foundation, its users or the public.") from the Board regarding the Foundation's privacy policy, just so that everyone is crystal clear about what circumstances this personal information may be released?
Hi
I guess that most points you are raising do not really belong to the checkuser policy proper, but to the privacy policy.
More particular, these points are visible here : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#Policy_on_release_of_data_deri...
Maybe this page needs clarification...
What does "If the user has said they're from somewhere and the IP confirms it, it's not releasing private information to confirm it if needed." mean?
Well... I live in Clermont Ferrand and published this information myself. If for some reasons a check is done on my user:Anthere, I can not complain that it be publicly revealed that the user:Anthere ips are leading to Clermont Ferrand...
What does "generally" in "Revealing the country is generally not personally identifiable (e.g. "User:Querulous is coming in from the UK, User:Sockpuppet is coming in from Canada")." mean?
The problem with releasing data is to allow others to identify a "person". If my ip is fixed and if I edit under another name, such as user:antfish, the check will reveal that user:anthere and user:antfish are editing from the same ip... which could lead to high suspicion that both are the same editor.
Versus, if it is revealed that user:antfish is an editor with an ip in France... well, we are only 60 millions or so. This will not publicly prove I am user:Antfish.
I'm still not happy with the idea that access to personal information can be given to people on the say-so that they will behave. Yes, the people who this will be given to are going to be some of the most trustworthy Wikipedians there are, but this is *personal information*. We should have some kind of legal agreement in place so there are no excuses.
Chris
Difficult to do as I understood... Amongst things we could do for example, is to require an editor with this type of access to provide his real name (privately) and a valid email. And have him confirm by email that he read the privacy policy. Would that be an idea ? Yes ? No ?