Hello Matthew Flaschen, Hello List,
The code of conduct is affecting the whole Wikimedia community, including dewp/enwp/et all. Why? Because if someone from dewp for example want to report a bug the code of conduct applies. So the local community should be notified as well, imho.
I am also not a fan if a Staffer (Matthew in this case) is taking part of the vote and then closing/evaluating the section himself, i see a conflict of interest here. This should be done by someone completely uninvolved. Matthew is highly involved and should, imho, abstain from marking section as done/consensus and striking votes.
I am not against a code of conduct (of course not! if someone is insulting other users or playing nasty games then he should get blocked ), but i am against a code of conduct whit a arbcom like constructions which lives door and gate open for potential abuse.
Just a few thoughts :-)
Regards,
Steinsplitter
________________________________ Von: Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org im Auftrag von Matthew Flaschen mflaschen@wikimedia.org Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 04:46 An: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces
On 02/21/2017 05:42 PM, Erik Bernhardson wrote:
It's not particularly clear hear, which community? The developers of
mediawiki-core? extension developers? people who attend hackathons and such? It seems all of these groups have been bombarded with calls to participate in the process over the last year and have had plenty of opportunity to be heard. That only a small group of WMF staff have decided to participate, almost entirely in their free time as volunteers and not paid employees, doesn't seem to change that.
I agree that it's been widely announced in the appropriate venues (e.g. wikitech-l and other lists, Phabricator, MediaWiki.org). Ultimately, what matters is whether they are a participant in the technical community, not whether they are a volunteer or staff. However, both volunteers and staff participants have joined the CoC process.
Matt Flaschen
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