On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@googlemail.com wrote:
Maybe we should drop the "computer-world-based" criteria like the ISO-code and introduce more "real-life" criteria when accepting a new language ("new" even if ancient): *The language is taught at a university *There is a journal or newspaper in or about that language *20 or more speakers or scholars (with a certificate or some prove that they can at least write in that language) endorse the project
I would support loosening of "computer-world-based" criteria; all we should really need to do is demonstrate that modern use of the languages is supported by -scholars- of the "historical" language or notable -institutions- (like the Vatican for Latin).
But I understand the reason why the subcommittee likes "computer-world-based" criteria (it spares them a huge amount of pointless research and arguments), and so I've proposed the "Can someone write an FA on the language's modern literature?" criterion as a useful surrogate for the types of criteria you suggest.
Thanks, Pharos
2008/4/2, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Aphaia aphaia@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild) pathoschild@gmail.com wrote:
Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
As long as there is a notable -contemporary- literature, vocabulary problems will
be
minimal.
What is "notable"?
Notable enough to have a Featured Article about [[Modern Latin literature]] or [[Modern Coptic literature]] on English Wikipedia or another major-language Wikipedia.
I think this proposed criteria is too subjective and naive. Specially regarding to the fact English Wikipedia is not always good at humanities, in particular non European literatures. Having a FA may too be occasionally I'm afraid.
But I like the idea of "notable authors". They are notable since they have a decent size of readership. It means their writings are read and surrounded by the reader community which the language in question is actively, at least, read and have a possibility to be written again. And even if we still use Wikipedia again, "having an article of that author" is a less opportunity driven criteria, I think.
Of course it would be a powerful incentive to develop some of those non-European literature articles. And one that could probably be met by a dedicated person or small group with a medium effort.
But actually having an FA wouldn't be so important as demonstrating that such an FA is possible. Really, it's an idea of making an outlet where the notableness of the subject would be absolutely demonstrable.
"Notable authors" is another idea that could certainly work, though this might be complicated a bit by some authors being notable for work in more than one language, and that some borderline languages might have notable contemporary literatures, without many notable individual authors. Still, it's a concept that could help a lot.
Thanks,
Pharos
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