Hoi, Please read this article by the Volkskrant (in the translation of your tools) and you see that a review by a judge can be extremely useful. It also shows that organisations like the NSA can and do lose.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/tech/rechter-zet-streep-door-bewaarplicht-voor-prov...
Thanks, GerardM
On 11 March 2015 at 11:28, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Sigh ... being spied upon by the AIVD is not fine. However, they have a duty to Dutch people and the argument that the NSA is benign to US-Americans "equally applies" to the AIVD. We do serve Wikimedia content from Amsterdam.
The notion that the AIVD is incompetent is based on what ? It is however beside the point. Thanks, GerardM
On 11 March 2015 at 10:09, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 11 March 2015 at 08:37, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The fact that law suits like this actually happen is a wonderful improvement in and of itself.
Our aim is to freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Free has many meaning, one of them is free to share without consequences.It is not
only
about free of cost.In the past we implemented https for the very reason that we did not want eavesdropping on the content from our Wikis.
Partially implemented https
I think nobody ever suggested that we should not do this because of the cost.
So for what reason wasn't it done?
The least it does is make it obvious that the NSA is not behaving in a way that is
conducive
to propagating democracy and its associated values in our world. It
shames
the current practices and the donkey may sing.
Being spied on by AIVD on the other hand is just fine.
Seriously people if you aren't American pick your words with care. Your domestic agencies are either worse or activity incompetent. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/GuidelinesWikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe