The Affiliations Committee has no intention whatsoever of changing the process; rather, we are simply trying to determine whether the conditions that we originally set out have in fact been met.
It would, perhaps, have been easier for everyone if we could have done this without having to solicit specialized legal expertise, but the circumstances seem to have unfortunately precluded a procedure whose validity is obvious from a simple reading of the applicable rules.
Regards, Kirill
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:17 PM Nathan nawrich@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for acknowledging the existence of this thread and the fact that AffCom is still making some effort to bring the problem to a resolution. It doesn't seem like it should be all that challenging, if one disputant is a single individual and the other is a community of people led by those for whom they have repeatedly expressed support.
If, as described, AffCom laid out a procedure by which one side could legitimize itself and then decided to revoke that procedure after much work by those trying to follow it... AffCom could acknowledge an error and apologize. That you have described your proposed next step is at least progress in the right direction.
In any case, I'm sure we all look forward to AffCom sharing the results of its solicitation of advice with the Wikimedia public.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:07 PM Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
As I believe we mentioned the last time this particular topic came up, we are unlikely to resolve the intricacies of Portuguese nonprofit law by debating them on a mailing list.
Gonçalo and his colleagues have quite clearly expressed their position: they believe that the process by which they came to control Wikimedia Portugal complies with the applicable provisions of Portuguese law. At
the
same time, the other side in this conflict has expressed a contrary position: that the process in question does *not* comply with those provisions.
The Affiliations Committee has obviously been unable to make any real headway here, particularly as the dispute hinges in no small part on interpretations of case law rather than a plain reading of the applicable legal codes; consequently, we've solicited advice from actual Portuguese legal experts, which we hope to receive in the near future. Until that happens, however, we are not going to be able to bring this to closure,
one
way or the other.
Regards, Kirill
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