On Jan 15, 2008 4:26 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Several members of the language committee are extremely unhappy with Pathoschild's sorry show of doing this on his own accord. They have indicated that they will block final approval for any project by going back on this necessary part of the policy.
Unless one other member of Langcom gives their understanding, I think it wise not to comment to this part of your statement.
And I take it strangely you speak without clarification as whom you are talking. I don't want an opinion of certain individual on his individual basis. I asked opinion of Langcom.
Do you speak here on behalf of Langcom based on consensus?
Again, there are two parts to the policy.
- When a language is starting it only needs to do the most used messages of
MediaWiki. This provides basic support for a language.
- When a project request is a subsequent project for a language, all
MediaWiki messages and the messages of the extension used by the WMF are required.
[snip]
It is exactly for languages that use a different script that it is vital that the localisation is done completely. For these languages there is no chance that the English word is the same or similar.
Your argument here again become pointless. "A different script" is unclear and a-certain-but-not-clear-language-centric. Even if I assume you wanted to mean "a different language from MediaWiki default = latin script", it is still pointless and give no insight of differences Langcom set between Greek (Greek script, not latin) and Japanese (Kana and Kanji). And I would politely add Greek is not English word.
Shortly your argument doesn't provide any good reason for your favor to Greek project.
MediaWiki is an integral part of how we provide our information. It needs as much tender loving care as we give to our content. MediaWiki receives a lot of tender loving care from the developers. We can show our appreciation by making sure that their software is properly understood and appreciated by all its users not only for the people that know English and get everything by default.
Again I should ask you: who are we? Specially if Pathoschild pointed out flows in your wording?
Thanks, GerardM
On Jan 15, 2008 12:08 AM, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild) pathoschild@gmail.com wrote:
Aphaia, I'm sorry; I looked at the localization for Japanese, and it seems that this problem is caused by a change that happened a few days ago in the requirements. I've reverted them and brought them up for subcommittee discussion again (I hadn't commented on them, because it didn't seem from the proposal that they'd make much difference). I'll keep you updated off-list.
Yaroslav, as far as I know (I don't participate on that page) those numbers are only there to give a general idea of the discussion. Since they're manually updated, they're probably outdated most of the time.
-- Yours cordially, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)
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