Extremely sad news. I can't comment on the fairness but it does seem like the best decision has been taken.
Regards,
Isaac
On Apr 8, 2018 9:52 PM, "Lucas Teles" teleswiki@gmail.com wrote:
That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty of times and waiting and waiting for a word from you. Though you probably received lots of emails from me and others, I don’t think I have a single email from you guys about this in my inbox
I have literally implored you to provide me and answer for a few cases opened has been a while in order to have any instruction or advice on how to act in many situations. But that never came.
This is probably the first time I hear from you, Kirill, and I respectfully disagree that one can consider that you did well on it. You just let it all happen and watched this escalate without any help. We were working on our mistakes, we were building our code of conduct, accepted mediation with Millos and others, but the feeling is that we were totally alone on that. Sadly, your actions were always directed to both groups as if you were avoiding to take any side or decision, like you are doing now, taking a general action and not addressing any issue specifically.
I hope this change is for the best, but also hope that you can recognize your own mistakes here as others from WMF did. Just like I don’t think we did well every single moment and try to learn from it, you can’t really believe that you did a good job here. If you do (and that is the impression we have from your message), that is worrying. Then again, I hear from you, after so much time of silence and what I hear is punishment. You can’t probably think that you are being any educational on the matter. Sorry if there is any harsh word above, but that is sincerely unintentional.
Have a good day.
Teles
Em dom, 8 de abr de 2018 às 16:32, Vi to vituzzu.wiki@gmail.com escreveu:
Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected. I hope some new group will arise from these ruins.
Vito
2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com:
Hello everyone,
Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
Wikimedia
mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements,
which
are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic
organization,
or user group agreement. In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia
User
Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging
in
activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations
or
Wikimedia projects.
As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education
Brazil
—
have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has
resulted
in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement activities in Brazil. As all reasonable attempts to resolve the
conflict
have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
and
Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and
the
Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as
practicable.
Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts
for
these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts
for
any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
year.
The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement participants and stakeholders in the country.
Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the Affiliations Committee.
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