This seems like a mighty menacing line of discourse, coming from someone in a position to initiate a block. I don't think I should participate in any WP or WMF or Commons or WikiData discussions if such menace is the norm.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:05 PM Rebecca O'Neill rebeccanineil@gmail.com wrote:
It wasn't hostile Pine, but it wasn't a great idea to call out one of the few women on the chain for assuming bad faith given some of the other statements and assertions on the thread.
I did not make any assumptions on the motivations of those who take part in the on wiki discussions, I just stated that the results were often hostile environments which make engagement difficult or intimidating. And then I am name checked for making this rather mundane and oft cited issue. It was just a poor choice given the circumstances overall.
I don't take part as a I don't want my "card to be marked" or have certain editors monitoring my on wiki contributions based on assumptions made about me and my editing motivations.
On Thu 13 Jun 2019, 00:33 Pine W, wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I'm sorry if my post sounded hostile. I wish that I knew what to say.
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 16:19 Rebecca O'Neill rebeccanineil@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Pine,
While I appreciate your attempt at guidance here, given some of the messages in the chain the fact that you are calling me out as assuming
bad
faith out of all the participants does not inspire me to take part at
all.
Thanks, but I feel that I might just go back to deleting these onerous threads as has been my custom in the past rather than be singled out in such a manner.
If I had wanted to be tone policed o would have engaged with the
on-wiki
conversation.
Rebecca
On Wed 12 Jun 2019, 23:58 Pine W, wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Rebecca,
These conversations can be stressful for many of us, including me.
Speaking up in public can take courage. Thank you for participating
here,
and I encourage you to continue to participate even if you are in the minority regarding a certain discussion.
I know that this can be difficult to do, and it's sometimes difficult
for
me to do, but please be careful about linking strong opinions with
assuming
bad faith on the part of the people who state those opinions.
Sometimes
there are good reasons for assuming bad faith, but I think that it's
easy
for many of us, including me, to rush to the conclusion that someone
who
disagrees with me may be acting in bad faith.
I am sorry if you feel that you are not welcome here. Public
discussions
can be rough, but personally I think that they are usually for the
best.
I hope that my comments here are somehow encouraging.
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