Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests

25 Nov 2015

      Not speaking for Anne here, but in general I think all Wikimedia
movement-funded compensation should be published. This is already done in a
number of Wikimedia grant proposals, and I believe that almost all
government agencies in the U.S. are required to provide extensive data
about their use of tax money which includes salaries and pensions for
individual employees. I think this kind of transparency is appropriate.
Pine
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:18 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com
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Anne, do you imagine to publish income per person that way?
On Nov 25, 2015 04:53, "Risker" risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
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Thank you, Nikki.  Yes, about 70% of the costs were broken down, more or
less.  But almost 30% - totalling over US$635,000 - is undifferentiated
"floating capacity" and "administrative costs".  Those two amounts, which
are not broken down by program, total more than any other Wikimedia
movement entity except WMDE has received in the past three rounds.
User:Risker - FDC member
On 24 November 2015 at 10:13, Nicola Zeuner nicola.zeuner@wikimedia.de
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Dear Risker, Gerard et al.,
Just a quick correction:
WMDE did indeed provide a detailed cost breakdown for Wikidata costs as
well as other software development costs, down to the activity level,
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table 6b, in the financial section
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of
the WMDE proposal.
When first FDC member Risker
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and then FDC staff
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asked
about a separation of costs, our response referred them to table 6b,
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clarified that the first *eight* line items cover core Wikidata
development
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work (the remaining five items cover closely related development and
community activities that support Wikidata).
Hope this helps to inform this discussion.
Thanks,
Nikki Zeuner (WMDE)
Nikki Zeuner
Partnerships and Development
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
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Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter
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der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
http://wikimedia.de
2015-11-24 14:47 GMT+01:00 Risker risker.wp@gmail.com:
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Hello Gerard -
The recommended grant for Wikimedia Deutschland is larger than ever,
and
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represents a 42% increase from last year's grant.  This is a massive
increase.  Please don't confuse the fact that WMDE did not get
everything
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it wanted with whether or not Wikidata is underfunded.  Remember, the
request was not just for Wikidata funding, and despite many attempts
by
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the
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FDC to get precise data on the actual planned expenses for Wikidata,
the
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committee was not provided with this information.  While the funds
provided
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are restricted (in that they can only be spent on the projects WMDE
applied
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for), WMDE can spend the entire amount on Wikidata if it wants to.
Perhaps
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that is where you might want to turn your attention.
User:Risker - FDC member
On 24 November 2015 at 04:02, Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
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Hoi,
So in essence one of the most relevant development project -
Wikidata -
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that is arguably already underfunded will be even more underfunded
and
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we
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have to say thank you for doing a good job? Ok.. I thank Wikimedia
Germany
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for doing a stellar job. It is an acknowledged source for
inspiration
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and I
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have been really happy in all the contacts that I have had with
them
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over
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the years.
It is not up to me to doubt the sincere efforts of the FDC but I am
saddened that while WMF has more cash than that it can spend
important
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work
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is curtailed .. for what? Other development projects are not
treated
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in
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this way and a great opportunity to do even more is missed as a
result.
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Thanks,
     GerardM
On 24 November 2015 at 03:04, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
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Thank you FDC.
Many of the small and midsized APG requests fared well in this
round.
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That
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is nice to see.
I find it concerning that the larger the organization, the more
problems
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the FDC  seemed to find with the org's budget and performance
management
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practices. One would expect the larger organizations to have
mature
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and
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robust practices in these areas. Regarding WMF in particular, my
concerns
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about its budget practices are well documented and I appreciate
that
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the
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FDC is also taking note of the persistence of the problems. I
hope
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that
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WMF
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will get serious about its financial transpatency.
A couple of questions about Wikidata:
I'm confused about the funding for Wikidata. In one place the FDC
says
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that
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"Nonetheless, the FDC is exasperated by the inability of WMDE to
to
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disaggregate the costs of Wikidata from other projects." and in
another
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place the FDC says that "We have recommended a reduced amount for
WMDE
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this round with the expectation that WMDE will not cut Wikidata
or
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their
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other tech development work, but will instead find cost savings
elsewhere
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in its annual plan." If the FDC wants a disaggregated budget
(which
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is
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understandable) then why is the FDC expecting WMDE to dip into
its
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other
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funds and/or make cuts elsewhere in order to cover the work in
this
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proposal that the FDC is declining to fund in this proposal? This
expectation seems to be a bit of a contradiction.
I'm also wondering how WMDE is able to submit a dedicated request
for
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restricted funding for Wikidata if the Wikidata project is so
integrated
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into WMDE's other budgets that the FDC finds the integration to
be
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problematic. Can the FDC or our colleagues at WMDE explain this?
Wikidata is a high profile project with a good reputation, and I
hope
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that
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the issues can be resolved soon.
Thanks,
Pine
On Nov 23, 2015 14:09, "matanya moses" matanya@foss.co.il
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> Hello Wikimedians,
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> tl;dr: The FDC’s recommendations for this round of the APG
grant
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requests
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/20...
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> The Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) meets twice a year to
help
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make
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> decisions about how to effectively allocate movement funds to
achieve
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the
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> Wikimedia movement's mission, vision, and strategy. [1] We met
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four
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> days last week in San Francisco to review 11 proposals
submitted
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for
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this
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> round of funding. [2]
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> The committee has now posted our Round 1 2015-2016
recommendations
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the
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> annual plan grants (APG) to the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
Trustees.
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[3]
> The WMF Board representatives to the FDC (Denny Vrandecic,
Jan-Bart
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de
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> Vreede and Dariusz Jemielniak) will lead the Board in its
review
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of
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these
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> recommendations. The WMF Board will review the recommendations
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then
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> make their decision on them before 1 January 2016.
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> This round, the eleven proposals came from ten chapters and one
thematic
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> organisation, totaling requests of approximately $3.8 million
USD.
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Ten
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> affiliates were returning to the APG program, and one was a new
applicant.
> This round, one organisation requested a restricted grant to
support
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one
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> particular program. All other grant requests were for general
funding.
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> Before we met for our face-to-face deliberations, the FDC
carefully
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> reviewed all proposals and supporting documentation (e.g.,
budgets,
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plans,
> strategies) in detail, aided by staff assessments and analysis
on
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impact,
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> finances, and programs, as well as community comments on the
proposals.
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The
> committee had long and intense conversations about the
proposals
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submitted
> this round. By listening and carefully considering all
available
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data,
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the
> committee achieved consensus on all proposal deliberations.
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> In addition to the above, the FDC has also included a
recommendation
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about
> the WMF itself to improve its own level of planning
transparency
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and
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budget
> detail. The WMF staff were not involved in the conception or
writing
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> this additional recommendation.
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> For your reference, there is a formal process to submit appeals
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> these recommendations or complaints about the FDC process. The
processes
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> for both are outlined below.
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> Any applicant that wants to appeal the FDC’s recommendation
about
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their
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> proposal this round should submit it by 23:59 UTC on 8 December
2015
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> accordance with the appeal process outlined in the FDC
Framework. A
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formal
> appeal to challenge the FDC’s recommendation should be in the
form
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of a
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> 500-or-fewer word summary. The appeal should be submitted
on-wiki,
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[4]
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and
> must be submitted by the Board Chair of a funding-seeking
applicant.
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> Complaints about the process can be filed by anyone with the
Ombudsperson,
> and can be made any time. The complaint should be submitted on
wiki,
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> well. [5] The ombudsperson will publicly document the
complaint,
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and
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> investigate as needed.
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> Please take a look at the upcoming calendar [6] to learn about
other
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> upcoming milestones in the APG program.
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> Again, we offer our sincere thanks to the 11 organisations who
submitted
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> annual plan grant proposals to the FDC this round.
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> On behalf of the FDC,
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> Matanya Moses (FDC chair), User:Matanya
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> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG
> [2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015-2016_round1
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/FDC_recommendations/20...
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Appeals_to_the_Board_on_the_recom...
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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Complaints_about_the_FDC_process
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> [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Calendar
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] FDC recommendations for 2015-2016 Round 1 APG grant requests