Agree wholeheartedly. Don't need details but a summary list of chapters and the record of who voted would be very welcome.
I was dismayed that this information was private. It seems like transparency of basic information like this should be the goal here. I don't think detailed information is necessary.
Like WM UK, WM NYC was transparent about the process and outcome of its voting. It would be a real drag to have to look at each chapter's recent events to see if this information is recorded locally.
Why not have it publicly viewable, collected in one place? I don't see a downside here.
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle Secretary, Wikimedia NYC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
In fact, for those who have access to it, there is a list of statements at the bottom of that page, listing statements from each chapthorg on their method and time of voting:
https://chapters.wikimedia.ch/Appointment_process/2016/Voting#Statements
For example, our entry says:
"NYC: Decided by open public meeting on April 13, 2016."
I think it might be best to make that whole section publicly viewable.
Thanks, Pharos
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
Yes, for clarity, this is what I meant - a public list of who has voted so far (or who hasn't - it's much the same thing, as the overall electorate is known), but not a list of the votes.
I'm quite happy with confidential voting - either fully secret or, as Itzik says, just confidential until the end of the vote.
But knowing *who* has voted would be quite useful. Ultimately, the chapters represent large chunks of the community, and if the chapter isn't doing its job then it's good their members know about it in order to chase them. Discovering afterwards that your chapter hasn't voted is interesting, but not very useful at making sure votes get cast while there's still time - and ultimately, I think that last part is what we all want to achieve :-)
A.
On 3 May 2016 at 16:21, Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com wrote:
It seems like people are talking about two separate things at the same
time:
- Some people are taking about publishing *the votes* (either before,
or
after the election has finished)
- Some people are talking about publishing *the list of who has voted*
right now.
It is this second thing that I understood to be the request being made,
and
it is also completely consistent with the way the community-election
works
(where the voter, but not their vote, is published immediately). I also wouldn't think that publishing the names of the Chapters that have
voted
(and therefore identifying which ones have not yet) is still consistent with the preference that the *vote itself* remain private.
So, in order for the community (and those of us who are members of
Chapters
in particular) to encourage the chapters have not yet voted to do so,
would
it be possible to please publish a table on Meta of the list of voting-eligible organisations, and a "tick" next to their name if they
have
indeed already submitted their vote. [NOT who they voted for]
Thanks, -Liam
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