Hello Paulo,
Thanks for restoring those images. If images are routinely deleted this way, I'm afraid it would be difficult to retain new editors. Affiliates invest a lot of time and resources to recruit new volunteers through various programs/project and if their uploads are blindly deleted this way, then it's a problem that needs urgent attention.
I honestly can't think of the best approach at the moment but something needs to be done.
Regards,
Isaac
On Sun, May 12, 2019, 8:48 PM Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta@gmail.com wrote:
This is true. I verified and restored almost all the files. There was one or two problems with students who uploaded an occasional derivative work (integrated in their own work), but almost all the files were OK, and correctly uploaded. The main problem here, IMO, was marking sourced stuff as "no source" without any explanation, marking stiff as derivative work without explaining or stating what the original work was, and then deleting it uncritically. I understand there is a tremendous backlog in Commons, and the community is tiny and most of the sysops (on which I include myself) are generally more interested in other activities than the regular management of the project, but IMO this sort of behavior should not be seen as acceptable. IMO it would be preferable to not delete or mark anything at all, and let the backlog grow freely, than to do it this way. On the other hand, in general the sysops with this kind of behavior are the most productive in the whole management of the project, and I feel I've no right to criticize when I have no plans to regularly help in what they are doing with such dedication.
Best, Paulo
Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga galder158@hotmail.com escreveu no dia domingo, 12/05/2019 à(s) 20:18:
Well.. there where instructions. All the videos were supervised before uploading, all the songs were perfectly cited at the descriptions and all the own work was marked as own work. This are the instructiones to follow when uploading to Commons. ________________________________ From: Wikimedia-l wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Peter Southwood peter.southwood@telkomsa.net Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2019 7:59 PM To: 'Wikimedia Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
It seems to be a situation where there were no clear instructions, so people did what they thought was a good idea, but others thought it was a bad idea. No communications, now the blame is being spread without analysing the problem and proposing a solution. Not an unusual situation really. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mister Thrapostibongles Sent: 11 May 2019 08:53 To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Dispute between Common and Outreach
Hello all,
There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the Commons
components
of The Community, judging by the article "Wikimedia Commons: a highly hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the Education Newsletter
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Comm...
As far as I can understand it, some students on an Outreach project uploaded some rather well-made video material, and comeone on Commons deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be student projects
and
so concluded they were copyright violations. But some rather odd remarks were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream of uploaded
copyrighted
content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco that doesn't care." and "you have regarded Commons as little more than free cloud storage for images you intend to use on Wikipedia ".
Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?
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