Gregory writes:
When the foundation demonstrates good performance at bringing needed love and attention to open projects, and initiatives by its own communities, then giving attention on those who have come from the proprietary world will be no cause for bad feelings.
I wholly agree with this sentiment.
I think nothing here is a zero-sum game. Telling people that Kaltura would welcome some attention doesn't, in my view, drain love and attention from open projects or from initiatives in its own communities, any more than the prodigal son made the father love his other sons any less.
I think what does drain love and attention is needless negativity on mailing lists, among other things.
So, if I saw the Kaltura announcement and thought it was giving too much attention to a privately funded experiment, I might say to the rest of the community and to the Foundation, "what is it that we can do right now to make sure that open projects and our own initiatives get the attention they now need?" And then, presumably, people in the community could reasonably decide to give time to Kalture, to give time to other projects, or to continue to give time to baiting people on mailing lists, depending on whatever pleases them most. Everything can be understood as an opportunity cost, if you want to analyze the world that way. But I think that's a pessimistic view. I wouldn't be surprised if all these projects ultimately fed into each other, inspired one another, and even lead to convergence -- just as Wikipedia itself and other projects have.
We should be ready for the best to happen.
--Mike
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In a message dated 1/18/2008 8:06:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, shimgray@gmail.com writes:
On 18/01/2008, Chad innocentkiller@gmail.com wrote:
We already delete a massive number of fair use images daily simply being a screenshot of XYZ singer or ABC video game. Are we to think this won't happen with video? Are the administrators of the various projects ready to deal with such an increased number of copyrighted pages that will require deletion? The only way to ensure that this isn't a problem would to be to extend our fair use provisions in the various projects, allowing
copyrighted
media to be added more freely. We already see people taking the easy way out and uploading copyrighted images of famous people rather than
attempting
to acquire them freely.
It strikes me that this is a very fatalistic view.
Actually, it is not quite as fatalistic as it would seem. I raised this issue on Techcruch regarding the sample Naruto video. I could easily have used the Xbox 360, the polar bears from National Geographic, or the long- awaited and much anticipated Spice Girl reunion tour (they aged well, didn't they?). The response is here: _http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/kaltura-partners-to-add-crowdsourced-vi... (http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/kaltura-partners-to-add-crowdsourced-vi... )
Michelle _January 18th, 2008 at 10:54 am_ (http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/17/kaltura-partners-to-add-crowdsourced-vi... ) Danny,
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