Hi Russavia-
Thanks for clarification. There is a lot of room for confusion here and I sure I have not been as clear when talking about this as I needed to be. Here are the details: The pricing structure is based on cumulative donations. We paid 20% on the first £100 in donations (which was covered with our very first donation), 10% on the next £9899, and 1% on every donation after that – which is the fee assessed on any donation made during this December campaign that requests Gift Aid. We will share the totals after we receive our quarterly statement toward the end of February. Sorry for the confusion.
Thank you, Lisa
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Lisa,
I posted a link to the WMF Board discussion to this list on 6 December, it's no problem if you missed it, here it is again:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Fundr...
I quote from that:
"The [UK Fund for Charities channels gifts to validated non-UK based charities. We were able to use their service this year for large Wikimania-related donations. They charge 1% for large gifts, making this an effective way to receive gift aid. However this is not a great solution for individual donors: for gifts under £100, they charge up to 20%, consuming most of the gift aid. –SJ talk 00:28, 13 October 2014 (UTC)"
Given the nature of fundraising drives by the WMF (e.g banners) most of the donations from the UK would surely come from the "under £100" category, and many of these donations would likely be made because of the gift aid that is no longer able to be collected by WMUK or the WMF.
Hopefully you can give us some clear answers to the issues which have been raised on both the Board noticeboard and this list; myself and others feel we are still none the wiser as to the reality.
Cheers
Russavia
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Lisa Gruwell lgruwell@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Russavia-
I haven't seen the specific comment from SJ that you are referencing, but I am guessing that he is referring to the Gift Aid percentage match, which used to be 20% and is now 25%. The 1% I mentioned is the processing fee WMF pays to the U.K. Fund for Charities for processing our donations. We most often see large donors asking about Gift Aid and that is why we set up the account, but it is not exclusively for large donations. We refer anyone who is wishing to add Gift Aid to their donation to our account with the U.K. Fund for Charities.
When I said "in country", I meant anyone wishing to give to the chapter, instead of WMF. Those donations stay with the chapter and do not come back to WMF. We should be able to provide some numbers around this when our donor services team comes up for air in January.
Thank you, Lisa
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Lisa
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Lisa Gruwell lgruwell@wikimedia.org wrote:
- When a U.K. donor is looking to add Gift Aid to their donation, we
process the donation through our account with the U.K. Fund for
Charities,
which charges 1% for this service and returns the donor data to WMF.
When
a donor is looking to donate in country, we direct them to the chapter.
Can you please confirm whether you are talking about large donors, or the every day type donors who keep Wikipedia free by clicking on the banners. The reason this is needed is that it contradicts what Sj has stated on the Board noticeboard, where a figure of 20% was mentioned for the nickel and dime donors (which come about by way of the banners, etc).
Can you also give some further information on how many of these "in country" donors the WMF has sent WMUK's way? And what $/£ amount would we be talking about here? And are funds from these "in country" donors funnelled back to the WMF?
Apologies if this is covered elsewhere.
Russavia