On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
Hello,
I think this is a communety thing. Its to bad that you lost your adminship but why should people from other projects step in? I mean this is something on the en.source not a global thing. huib
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I have no idea of the en.ws situation, nor do I want to have any idea, but I would like to remark that leaving such things to the community decision is a good idea only if the community itself is big enough. Otherwise, it is easy for a group of individuals, or even for an individual to introduce their own rules which may be incompatible with the general purposes of the project. In this case, an external help may be needed. For instance, this is what happened a year ago on ru.wb when the only admin has been desysopped after it has been discovered and reported on this very list that he arbitrarily abused and blocked other users and removed edits.
Again, I am not really aware of the situation on en.ws, I have no idea whether this project is big enough to solve their own problems within the project, and I do not want to make any statements about any users over there. (As a matter of fact, I never logged in to en.ws). I just wanted to say that not every project is capable with solving its own problems.
I agree with this. English Wikisource does not have a mediation framework, and I didnt participate in that desysop discussion as much as I should have, due to time constraints. The next step would be a meta RFC, or something like an offwiki discussion. I am happy to participate in something like that if it would help.
What I will say now is that Eclecticology is a great contributor to the English Wikisource project, and I hope he continues to be. The main project that he has been working on, [[s:Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900]], has been exempt from the structure imposed on the rest of the project, as a way of reducing the tensions.
-- John Vandenberg