+ Footnotes.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:11 PM, Lila Tretikov lila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Mike,
We plan to publish a blog tomorrow that addresses some of the questions raised here and confusion in the press. To briefly address your questions specifically, here is where we are today: the the grant allows us to pursue strictly (1) -- a better Wiki search. In that, it supports testing of some of our hypotheses on how to best do this.
It is possible we could pursue (2) in the future (for example, integrating a few specific ones such as OpenStreetMaps or Internet Archive). At some point we have looked into (2+) -- adding broader knowledge sources, though we didn't get into specifics there, and have since decided against increasing the scope. I am not considering (3). Going after general search engine traffic and users is inconsistent with our mission. Our focus is on knowledge.
To be clear, search itself is only one aspect of the work of the Discovery team. This team is also tasked with discovering how to better interconnect our various formats of knowledge, thus amplifying the impact of our volunteers' contributions. Only some of our knowledge is actually connected and discoverable today, other is very hard to find. Search is a simple, non-invasive point of entry into the Wikimedia knowledge ecosystem.
I welcome and appreciate the feedback and support of members of our Wikimedia movement. Collectively, our thinking evolves as we learn. We will continue to make hypotheses, test them, and adjust our path accordingly.
Lila
[1] Wikimedia specific: index all of Wikimedia's content and make that easier for users of the sites to find
[2] Wikimedia + selected others: like (1), but also allow some other like-minded sources into the mix (limited, identified sources)
[2+] Wikimedia + other knowledge
[3] Google-scale: crawl and index everything (duckduckgo-like) all content included (shops, goods, etc.)
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Craig Franklin <cfranklin@halonetwork.net
wrote:
I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this Michael. Reading the documents I've seen, it seemed like (1) to me, but a lot of the assumptions seem to lean towards (3). If it is (1), then that is an entirely reasonable thing for the Foundation to be putting development effort into. The problem is that the statements in the grant documents are quite vague, and given the rest of the shenanigans that the WMF has been involved in lately, people are quite predictably jumping to the least flattering conclusion.
Cheers, Craig
On 16 February 2016 at 05:36, Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
On 15 Feb 2016, at 17:10, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi, The notion that WMF should out google Google is stupid, certainly at
that
kind of money.
I'm still confused about what kind of 'search engine' is actually being proposed here. Is it:
- Wikimedia specific: index all of Wikimedia's content and make that
easier for users of the sites to find 2) Wikimedia + selected others: like (1), but also allow some other like-minded sources into the mix 3) Google-scale: index everything (duckduckgo-like) ... or somewhere on the scale between those points?
A lot of people seem to be assuming (3), others are liking the idea of (1), but (2) (or maybe (1) leading to (2)) might be closer to the
reality?
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