On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:50 PM Dan Szymborski dszymborski@gmail.com wrote:
As long as people are going to continue to talk about me and imply that I'm actually *harassing* people, then I feel I have a right to defend myself.
Nobody ever denied you that right.
I brought up that the UCoC standard is a reasonable person standard, not a
"most offended person" standard and this was never addressed. Instead, I was demeaned by being placed on a special moderation protocol. Asaf Bartov threatened me that if I continued to defend myself -- even as people continued to discuss me -- that *I'm* hijacking the thread.
What I actually wrote to you, and I quote, was:
"I also must insist that you not hijack this thread, which is for discussing the draft UCoC. If you see value in bringing up your concerns on those other matters on this list, please do so on separate threads. Since you have expressed the opinion that this UCoC draft is illegitimate, I suggest there is really no reason for you to post further on this thread, leaving it for those who *would* like to discuss it."
I then did indeed threaten that *if you continue to disrupt the UCoC thread*, your messages won't be let through. As you can see, your latest letter, since it was no longer disrupting the UCoC thread, *was* let through.
I asked Asaf if Koerner was given a similar warning for a very long, smug,
patronizing screed about me as on-topic. Bartov reiterated that nobody else was given any warning about off-topic communication. Only *I* am not allowed to talk about *my* apparent offense.
Since now you quote a question you asked privately, I will quote the answer I gave you:
==================== "No, I did not warn Ms. Koerner about thread hijacking, because the very problem with thread hijacking is that once the change of topic is made, people legitimately want to respond. I have not observed Ms. Koerner *initiating* a thread hijack.
I do encourage you to continue contributing on the list, including in criticizing whatever flaws you find in the Foundation's actions. I certainly find such flaws myself.
But again, as a professional, perhaps you can be less ornery and more measured in expressing the *substance* of your concerns. It would at the very least be no less effective, and perhaps more so." ====================
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