Interesting discussion but away from the focal point of what Christian shared. Hope both can be useful and continue but in separate email threads.
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 4:04 AM Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Andreas -
First off, contract employees are employees. There were 82 of them. (Part V, line 1a on the Form 990) They do not receive a W-3 form. Only 291 employees received the W-3 form. That brings employee total to 373.
Secondly, you fail to compensate for the fact that the 13 "key employees"
- officers, the top 5 compensated non-officer staff, and other key staff -
received approximately $3.3 million alone. That reduces the employee pool to 360 and the compensation pool to $52.3 million.
That gives an average total compensation of about $145,000 USD. Reportable compensation includes pension plan contributions, medical/dental plans, paid leaves,social security/medicare taxes, insurance, costs reimbursed for maintaining a home office, and many other forms of direct or indirect compensation. The benefits package would run about 25-30% of the base salary, and other compensation will add into that.
There's no reason whatsoever to believe that the employee numbers remained static the following year; in fact, in your other statement, your figures would suggest you think the WMF currently has about 650-675 staff.
Risker/Anne
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 21:37, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
Amir,
You say, "it was only 12 were paid more than $100,000 (at least according to the form)."
Part VII of the Form 990 (page 8) states, in line 2 (under the table of highest earners you mention),
"Total number of individuals (including but not limited to those listed above) who received more than $100,000 of reportable compensation from the organization – *165*"
That is more than half of all employees (actual employees, as opposed to freelancers).
Andreas
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 2:29 AM Amir Sarabadani ladsgroup@gmail.com wrote:
The $200,000 average salary for each employee is plain wrong.
If you look at 2019 Form: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/8/85/Wikimedia_Foundation_... In that form, there is a section (Section VII) for the highest paid employees and requires WMF to report any employee who was paid more than "$100,000 from the organization and any related organizations". And only 11 people in all of WMF were paid more than $200,000 in that FY and the highest paid employee took a little less than $400,000, and in total with the rest it was only 12 were paid more than $100,000 (at least according to the form).
There are lots of complicating factors, including the fact that most WMF "employees" live outside of the US and thus are hired through the Employer of Record (EoR) system. So they show up as contractors in the list of staff and I'm not sure where their expenses show up in Form 990. Staff compensation gets adjusted to where they live and usually (virtually all but not sure) it's less than salaries paid in the bay area due to the fact that simply living in SF (and bay area) is expensive.
If you combine total expenses of WMF with personnel expenses (~80M) and divide that to 400 (~ number of staff in 2019), you might get $200,000 per person but that includes data center expenses, buying hardware expenses, network expenses, money paid for renting offices, electricity bills of the dcs and offices, travel expenses, basically anything you can imagine except grants.
(In my volunteer capacity, It's weekend)
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 2:38 AM Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think there is any such source. In another thread, Andreas also states that there are over 800 WMF and affiliate employees (which is probably true); however, that would mean that *just salaries* would come to more than the 2021-22 annual budget.[1] (i.e. - 800 employees x $200,000 each = $160 million; 2021-22 budget is $150 million. That is taking the smaller number of "over 800 employee" from the other post and "over $200,000 per employee" from this one.) While I have no doubt that salaries and benefits make up the majority of expenditures in both the WMF itself and the WMF and affiliates together, I think these statements are exaggerations.
Risker/Anne
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-term_plan_2019/A...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 20:04, Alex Monk krenair@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have a source for that number?
On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 at 20:38, Andreas Kolbe jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
As for nobody at Wikimedia profiting off the free content created by volunteers, that is relative. WMF salary costs currently average over $200,000 per employee. In most parts of the world, that would be considered wealthy. A minor issue in the grand scheme of things, certainly, but still relevant to us here at least.
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