Thanks for the links, Leila.
I am generally happy with what I have seen of the Talk Pages project. I am familiar with the current talk page system being difficult to explain to new users. I was dreading the possibility of WMF operating with a wrecking ball to get the changes that it wants, but thankfully the early indications are that this project is being handled carefully.
I am remain unconvinced that Space is a good use of WMF resources, with the exception that Space provides a WMF-hosted option for private group discussions that WMF is willing to accept under its current policies for Space. People who currently use non-WMF platforms for private group discussions might decide that they would prefer to have some of those discussions on Space. Notably, MediaWiki doesn't provide robust support for private group discussions on a wiki that is public by default.
Have a good weekend,
Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 14:03 Leila Zia leila@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Pine,
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:47 PM Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
From what I have seen, I think that Wikimedia Space may be good for some use cases, but it's not a substitute for Meta and for many existing
public
communications channels. One use case for Space that does make sense to
me
is that people might want to use it for private group communications. However, the platform is under WMF's control, community governance
appears
to be nearly nonexistent, public interest appears to be low at this time, and I think that Space fragments discussions onto yet another platform.
I'm not sure if you've already watched the Metrics Meeting today. If you have not, you may find these helpful:
- Elena's response to a few questions about the governance of Space,
who/what-purpose it's being designed for, how we should evaluate its success, ...: https://youtu.be/nhoJb6rwkfc?t=3487
- In IRC, whatami shared a link to the Talk pages project:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project
Best, Leila
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