Unless you are an artist that wants everyone to experience your art exactly the way you produced it, ND is likely suboptimal if not harmful.
Even a normative work will have thousands of edits per page, dozens of typos or format corrections, and even future updates to add footnotes, or actual changes ('this grammar rule last changed in 2002 under guideline 2002-14b, see diff').
A reuser will take a page image of an interesting title page or table to illustrate a discussion of comparative Serbian grammars in a video montage. Someone will translate the narrative parts of the Normative Grammar into French. Someone will add structured data and related tags to each page.
Wouldn't you consider these all derivs?
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:34 AM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Just a short note before I think about this: Dictionaries are free and there is a lot of sense having them under a free license (will be CC-BY). I am talking about Normative Grammar of Serbian Language here. On Feb 23, 2015 9:31 AM, "John Mark Vandenberg" jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Which, actually, reminds me that we definitely need a "non-free" repository. For example, we could get that grammar to be quoted in whole, but there is no sense to change it.
But, my initial point was: Am I missing something? Would there be any reason why such grammar would have sense without ND clause?
Milos,
Could we not import these works onto Wikisource in original format, where they would be preserved without permitting altering from the original? Wikisource community is a 'free-culture' equivalent of ND - altering the original is considered to be vandalism.
Then build a bot to create wiktionary pages where they dont exist, and link those wiktionary entries to the relevant Wikisource page.
That was the idea we had behind this project
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Dictionary_of_the_Sunda_language
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:A_dictionary_of_the_Sunda_language_of_J...
with wikt links added to pages yet to be created
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:A_dictionary_of_the_Sunda_language_of_Ja...
But I've never gotten around to writing the ws -> wikt bot , and was sort of waiting for wiktionary-wikidata integration to simplify the bot's overall structure.
-- John Vandenberg
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