Thank you.
On 9/11/07, Platonides Platonides@gmail.com wrote:
teun spaans wrote:
This summer I tried to write a hiking route, illustrated with pix of the plants en route. Most photos I could provide from my own walk along
those
trails, but for some I tried to find some on commons. Inclusion of 1 or
2
photos from commons would force me to publish the entire 3 page
description
under GFDL, instead of CC-BY-SA, <stress>and</stress> include a n-page complete GFDL text. Very unpracticle.
If it's a web page, you could simply place a link to it.
It is an openoffice document, not a webpage. I had inserted a link for the time being, bit i think the GFDL text requires me to provide the full text, not just a link. Also, if the camping site which serves as a starting point wants to provide their visitors with printed copies, the GFDL requires them to put the GFDL prominently on the titlepage AND provide the full text in print.
All this is just al illustration of my opinion that the GFDL is a highly impractical license, and that we would do well to accept other licenses instead of or alongside GFDL.
Note that GFDL has no provision for these practical problems.
That's why commons suggests using a dual GFDL Cc-by-sa for the images. Also, not all photos of commons are GFDL. We probably have as many Public Domain images as GFDL (and there're also many CC). You had bad luck with the license of those 2 images you needed. Moreover, you can always ask the author to (re)license it, either with a generic CC license, or giving you permission to use it on the route. I see no sensible reason he wouldn't accept to do it.
Maybe i had bad luck with these images, but i guess more than half of those i browsed through were GFDL only. Maybe i'll do a count this weekend. Yes, I could try to ask the original uploaders - but we dont provide images for the sole purpose so that users should still approach the original owners. We try ro provide FREE content. Perhaps we should allow GFDL at commons as a license alongside CC-BA, just as we allow ADRM2 alongside a free license, and disable the GFDL only license at commons. A radical measure, i admit.
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