On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Nathan nawrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
Overall, I think Sue's post was an effort to move the conversation away from thinking of this issue purely in the terms of the debate as it's taken place so far. I think that's a very worthwhile thing to do. I would also point out that lots of good and thoughtful ideas have been collected at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image_filter_referendum/Next_steps/en
IMO the appropriate level of WMF attention to this issue is to 1) look for simple technical help that we can give the community, 2) use the resources that WMF and chapters have (in terms of dedicated, focused attention) to help host conversations in the communities, and bring new voices into the debate, to help us all be the best possible versions of ourselves. And as Sue said, we shouldn't demonize each other in the process. Everyone's trying to think about these topics in a serious fashion, balancing many complex interests, and bringing their own useful perspective.
Erik
Erik, if you really want to change the focus of the debate, suggest to Sue and the board that they make a commitment: that an image filter won't be imposed on the projects against strong majority opposition in the contributing community. Then you can move on to the hard work of convincing us of its merits, and we can set arguments over authority and roles aside.
Nathan
Hear, hear!