On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Tom Morris tom@tommorris.org wrote:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:09, Möller, Carsten c.moeller@wmco.de wrote:
No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers, screwdrivers and drills. We have consensus: Wikipedia should not be censored.
You hold strong on that principle. Wikipedia should not be censored!
Even if that censorship is something the user initiates, desires, and can turn off at any time, like AdBlock.
Glad to see that Sue Gardner's warnings earlier in the debate that people don't get entrenched and fundamentalist but try to honestly and charitably see other people's points of view has been so well heeded.
The nub of the matter is that such an approach should be a two-way street. There is no evidence that the filter-pushing lobby is making even the most rudimentary good-faith effort at listening what the other side is telling them. Just doing a lot of hand-waving and misdirection. Case in point, ditching the idea of a "category based filtering scheme" as if that particular bit was what people were opposing. Not even close. There is still an echo chamber aspect to the people who are driving filters.