Hi again,
The proposal for a new forum comes with a problem statement https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Forum/Proposal#Why_a_Movement_Strategy_Forum, a list of main features aimed to address this problem, and a set of questions to help everyone find points of tangible discussion and hopefully agreement.
Today, "use a wiki" or "we have Meta" alone doesn't solve the problem. The discrimination suffered by volunteers not fluent in English is real. The intimidation and alienation felt by many volunteers and many groups that are underrepresented in our movement or marginalized in our societies is real. And simply, the difficulty to have multiple simultaneous complex discussions in a structured and enjoyable way is very real.
We are not claiming that this forum can solve all these problems in one strike. However, we firmly believe that this forum presents a better alternative here and now for everyone interested in the Movement Strategy implementation. Clearly a better alternative for those who are in practice excluded or gone from traditional on-wiki conversations. But also to everyone else (expert wiki editors included) who wants to get things done in a context where diversity, equity, inclusion, efficient use of time, and fun are naturally expected.
Many people have responded to this problem with their feet. Wikimedia cross-project connections and conversations have been trending towards "social media" platforms for years. Today they are all scattered and still growing. And well, many years before social media, mailing lists like this one were created "off-wiki" for a reason.
This forum proposes the creation of a platform fully functional today, to host the conversations and collaboration needed to implement the Movement Strategy. We can offer a platform as easy to use as the popular tools people are using daily to connect and discuss. We can offer features none of these commercial platforms offer today like automatic translation, better organization of complex conversations, better search and memory, and a much better alignment with the Wikimedia values. All this is available today, one Wikimedia login click away. For you to review.
Keeping Meta updated including possibilities for participation is perfectly possible. One of the questions https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/are-there-other-channels-that-you-would-prefer-to-use-in-addition-to-or-instead-of-this-forum-for-movement-strategy-updates-and-feedback-why/54 of the community review asks about how the support of other channels would work in practice. If you appreciate Meta-Wiki as much as, say, Wikimedia volunteers who don't speak English, please contribute your ideas to find the best solutions.
I hope this expresses our general motivation to get out of everyone's comfort zone (ours included) and propose this forum.
Florence asks:
Will there be any notion of Single Login in the future (when/if it starts
being hosted by WMF) ?
Wikimedia login is in effect already now, and it's the only way to log in to the forum. After logging in the first time, the browser keeps the session for a period of time (that can be configured by the admins) so that people don't have to log in again every day.
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 12:36 AM Mike Peel email@mikepeel.net wrote:
See this pinned topic:
User privacy considerations in this forum
https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/user-privacy-considerations-in-this-fo... < https://forum.movement-strategy.org/t/user-privacy-considerations-in-this-fo...
So this does not follow the WMF's privacy policy at: https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy
You didn't answer this.
Sorry, I had responded with a link. This is what the link says:
We are still working on the Privacy Policy and the Terms of Use of the
Movement Strategy Forum.
They will be completed during the community review. In the meantime, we
provide here information
about privacy for users of this platform.
Every single link under "Community review questions" goes to your new website.
We are asking volunteers to review a proposed new forum. We have a forum that people can use to inform their reviews. Sending people to the forum being reviewed is only logical.
All wiki pages have a talk page, and the proposal's talk page <http://We are still working on the Privacy Policy and the Terms of Use of the Movement Strategy Forum. They will be completed during the community review. In the meantime, we provide here information about privacy for users of this platform.> also welcomes people to contribute their feedback there too, providing a structure to comment on the same questions.