One must have the courage of one's words and assume them. There is a very simple way of knowing who is lying: can Sylvain publish the letter in question? I will be really interested to see when he was punished for "having a girlfriend". Furthermore, I can't agree more with Craig and as I said, what a shame to expose all of this here publicly. But be sure that when I'll stop to read false statements or that I'm providing "alternative facts", I won't need anymore to write here.
Cheers, -- Emeric Vallespi
2017-11-24 3:34 GMT+01:00 Craig Franklin cfranklin@halonetwork.net:
Can I suggest to all parties that, as was the case last time this came up here, raking this conflict over the coals here on a mailing list where very few of us have direct knowledge of the situation, or the power to do anything about it in any case, is probably not helpful for anyone? I am especially uncomfortable at the notion of the discussion of people's HR records and personal lives in a public forum such as this.
Cheers, Craig
On 24 November 2017 at 06:23, Xavier Combelle xavier.combelle@gmail.com wrote:
Emeric,
When you say, that no sanction has filed his HR record, you are half or completely lying. The existence of a "rappel à l'ordre" (warning) is an argument which can support fire someone of the staff so it should be in a HR record.
In the same way Sylvain never said he is writing his email on behalf of an union of the employees of Wikimedia France but that he is the representative of the the employees of Wikimedia France which is plenty true.
From the whole wikimedia france, movement, during the #wmfrgate, it was only you Emeric and the old direction as a whole that your declaration don't match the facts or your subsequent declaration, as it it happened during the #bandeaugate in summer last
year.
I have still to see the said "lies" from your opponent which contradicts other public information (apart the words of you and the old direction)
Xavier Combelle
Le 23/11/2017 à 20:54, Emeric Vallespi a écrit :
Sylvain,
I have to answer to your email where you’re especially lying. You say that you’re writing on behalf of a union section of the
employees of Wikimedia France but I’m personally curious to know the
weight
of this union section. My question is actually: who else is represented
by
your email, if not yourself?
Moreover, you’re saying that you received a « warning » (?) because you
had a girlfriend. Is it serious?
Your employer asked you to distinguish professional time and personal
time. Indeed, you were reminded that you had to dedicate your work hours
to
the missions that were devoted to you and not to solve problems related
to
your personal life, especially if it interferes with organization’s activities and governance. It is also you who came, on your own, to tell
us
about the complexity of your personal and relationship situation in order to benefit of professional arrangements. The direction never looked for, nor asked, any information on this subject.
You’re mentioning the cancellation of the letter. Since, to my
knowledge, no sanction has been filed to your HR record, I do not really see what have been canceled.
I can understand that supporting your new board of trustees, involved
in
the governance issues and in the criminal complaints filed is critical to show your loyalty.
Do you know how impatient am I to discover your next fable? I guess the
only one never mentioned yet is maybe about a murder or something
(although
a streetfight scenario has already been invented x’D).
I think it was important to re-explain all those points so that the
community, which is - again - unnecessarily taken as witness, is not deceived by a scenario built from scratch.
Again, to discredit the movement by such erroneous but public
accusations still shows that only personal interests and vainness matter
in
this conflict with some people.
For months, several lies have been told by different people. Because
the
Wikimedia community protect itself and its members by harassing and defaming people who question the probity and integrity of some of its members doesn’t make of this lies the truth.
Best regards to all of you,
Emeric Vallespi
On 22 Nov 2017, at 13:37, Sylvain Boissel <
sylvain.boissel@wikimedia.fr>
wrote:
Hi Katherine,
2017-10-19 23:19 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org:
[...] We are committed to working with the new Wikimédia France conseil d’administration (governing board) to support the French community as
they
work to address and resolve these and other outstanding issues. The Wikimedia Foundation and the new leadership of Wikimédia France are
already
cooperating to address the governance-related concerns raised by the volunteer Funds Dissemination Committee in the first half of 2017. As
part
of this work, we have encouraged them to review how they will
independently
handle claims of harassment in the future. The Wikimedia Foundation
and
Wikimédia France share a common goal: a healthy, welcoming,
respectful,
inclusive Wikimedia community in France.
I know I am not alone in my dismay for how these events have
unfolded.
Many
dedicated, good-faith members of the French community, including
current
community members and present and former Wikimédia France board and
staff
members, have experienced distress and anxiety over recent months.
Those
outside of the community have watched with dismay as our peers and
friends
have found themselves disoriented, distressed, alienated, or at odds
with
one another. And yet we also know that many in France now feel a
renewed
sense of purpose for building the healthy and welcoming community we
all
desire.
As the representative of the local branch of the labor union ASSO-Solidaires at Wikimédia France, I wanted to thank you and the WMF staff members who took part in the site visit in Paris in July
(namely
Katy Love, Winifred Olliff, Stephen Laporte and James Baldwin) for
hearing
the distress of the staff members at a time when Wikimédia France's
board
plainly refused to discuss with the staff.
I also wanted to confirm that things are getting better with the new
board
elected in September.
I cannot speak about what my coworkers went through without asking
them
first, but I can share an example from my own story: in February, I
was
issued a « rappel à l'ordre » (warning) by the former direction and board, accusing me of disloyalty to the chapter because I had a girlfriend. It was cancelled this month by the new board, and this is a huge relief to
me.
Best regards, Sylvain.
-- *Sylvain Boissel* Délégué du personnel et Responsable de la section syndicale
ASSO-Solidaires
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