Yah I have mixed feelings about NC. There is a lot of great content under this license which would benefit our readers if we could use it. We for example have folks like Khan Academy and the World Health Organization who refuse to adopt open licenses. They tell us that we can use their content right now as we are a non commercial project but that they will not chance.
Yet us allowing NC will keep us from forcing those who are currently using this horribly unclear license to adopt an actual open one. I have had those who create NC context explicitly say we CANNOT use it on "Internet-in-a-Box" as even though we are selling the devices at below the cost of making them in the developing world, they are still being sold. This makes me want to have nothing to do with NC.
ND is even worse. This means we cannot translate content and I am not interested in seeing us adopt anything which we cannot translate.
James
On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 3:29 PM Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
There was once a report in which I read: Wikimedia Commons should allow NC and ND content because that is somehow good for "communities that are historically prohibited from telling their stories". Then I asked on the talk page for the reasoning behind this demand/postulation. The answer I got was not very substantial. I am very open to discuss the pros and cons of e.g. opening Wikimedia Commons to NC or ND. But sorry, I find it very difficult to have a meaningful conversation on this basis.
Kind regards Ziko
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Rep...
Am Fr., 9. Aug. 2019 um 20:37 Uhr schrieb Nicole Ebber < nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de>:
Dear fellow Wikimedians,
They’re here! [1] We are delighted to announce the first round of draft recommendations for structural change within our movement have been published. The recommendations have been developed by the nine Wikimedia 2030 working groups and are a key tool to help us build the future of our movement.
Working group members have been working tirelessly for a year to research the movement, analyze community input shared via community conversations, and gain insight into external trends. A huge thank you to each and every member for helping us reach this key milestone.
The draft recommendations are a first look at ways we can adapt our movement’s structures to help us advance in our strategic direction. They are the starting point for conversations about what kind of future we want to create together.
The recommendations are not final. In order to get them to that stage, your input is needed! We would like to hear from you all what these changes would mean for you in your local or thematic context, what do you like about them, and where you potentially see any red flags. And of course, always critically question whether these recommendations support the strategic direction.
There are a few ways to do this:
- Read through the recommendations online and provide your input
directly on Meta. [2]
- If you will be at Wikimania, join us in the Wikimedia 2030 space. [3]
- Attend a Strategy Salon hosted by an affiliate where you live. [4]
- Reach out to a Strategy Liaison in your language to share feedback,
or lead a conversation of your own. [5]
Over the next month, working groups will take the input they receive into the recommendations, alongside external advice and research, and use it to refine and finalize them. Share your views, and help shape what Wikimedia will look like in 2030 and beyond.
If you have any questions or feedback, please feel free to get in touch.
Best wishes,
Nicole
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Recommen...
[3] https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Wikimedia_2030 [4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/2019_Com...
[5]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/People/C...
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