On Sat, 2011-10-22 at 23:35 +0200, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
Am 22.10.2011 23:23, schrieb Nikola Smolenski:
On Sat, 2011-10-22 at 21:16 +0100, David Gerard wrote:
"Both the opinion poll itself and its proposal were accepted. In contrary to the decision of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, personal image filters should not be introduced in German-speaking wikipedia and categories for these filters may not be created for files locally stored on this wikipedia. 260 of 306 users (84.97 percent) accepted the poll as to be formally valid. 357 of 414 users (86.23 percent) do not agree to the introduction of a personal image filter and categories for filtering in German wikipedia."
I wanted to say this for a long time, and now seems like a good opportunity. I see this as a tyranny of the majority. I understand that a large majority of German Wikipedia editors are against the filter. But even if 99.99% of editors are against the filter, well, it is opt-in and they don't have to use it. But why would they prevent me from using it, if I want to use it?
Why? Because it is against the basic rules of the project. It is intended to discriminate content. To judge about it and to represent you
No, it is intended to let people discriminate content themselves if they want, which is a huge difference.
this judgment before you have even looked at it. Additionally it can be
If I feel that this judgment is inadequate, I will turn the filter off. Either way, it is My Problem. Not Your Problem.
easily exploited by your local provider to hide labeled content, so that you don't have any way to view it, even if you want to.
Depending on the way it is implemented, it may be somewhat difficult for a provider to do that. Such systems probably already exist on some websites, and I am not aware of my provider using them to hide labelled content. And even if my provider would start doing that, I could simply use Wikipedia over https.
And if providers across the world start abusing the filter, perhaps then the filter could be turned off. I just don't see this as a reasonable possibility.
If you want a filter so badly, then install parental software, close
It is my understanding that parental software is often too overarching or otherwise inadequate.
your eyes or don't visit the page. That is up to you. That is your
If I close my eyes or don't visit the page, I won't be able to read the content of the page.
PS: If it wasn't at this place i would call your contribution trolling.
It certainly isn't very helpful to good discussion that now I know you would call it trolling were we discussing it somewhere else.
But feel free to read the arguments: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%C...
It seems to me that the arguments are mostly about a filter that would be turned on by default. Most of them seem to evaporate when applied to an opt-in filter.