On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
I have been trying for over two years to bring this issue to the serious attention of the "powers that be" in the English Wikipedia. My messages are met either with a "there he goes again" attitude, or are not acknowledged at all. Where does one go from there if not the Foundation itself?
on 2/5/09 10:45 AM, Andrew Whitworth at wknight8111@gmail.com wrote:
The foundation is not likely to be able to do anything, even if it is willing (which I doubt). It makes some sense to treat them as the authority figure of last resort, but that isn't reality.
A sad state of affairs.
If a project so large in size and scope as English Wikipedia is having these problems with hostility and incivility, you're maybe seeing a manifestation of problems in human nature itself. See [[w:Dubar's Number]] for more information about large groups like this. If you can't fix the problem from within English Wikipedia, then the problems are likely to be unfixable.
Andrew, it is not the size of the group that is the issue, but how that group is managed. And there is a huge cultural difference between "control" and "management". It all rests with the skillful leadership of that group. It is my professional business to know such things.
Marc