Are you actually saying that it is promoting biological racism to mention the fact that, say, skin color, hair color, aspects of bone structure, or susceptibility to certain diseases are heritable characteristics of certain human populations?
Is this some kind of practical joke you are trying to play on us?
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:42 AM Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
What, you are really using a Wikimedia funded email list to promote biological racism? That's ... not acceptable behaviour.
Go read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism.
Fae
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 14:37, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com wrote:
Feel free to explain how the appearance of race differences is not
defined
by genetics. I have absolutely no problem accepting that people are different, and that some people may even be better adapted to the environment than me. ;)
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 3:32 PM Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
No, we do not call other Wikipedians "Negroid" because of their appearance meeting a racist theory published in the 1930s.
Or were you trying to say something else, other than defending "scientific racism" on this public list?
Fae
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 14:25, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm not sure it is wise to try to refute differences between humans, whether we call it race or something else, it is simply too easy to
point
out the differences. We should rather promote that differences are a GoodThing™
Humans do exhibit racial differences, but those differences should
not be
used as an excuse for abusing other people.
I'm a pink Norwegian, and I would probably die in the Kalahari
desert,
unless rescued by someone from the San people. They are so darn cool!
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 2:57 PM Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
It is remarkably easy to find various language Wikipedia articles
that
actively promote scientific racism. The forthcoming WMF universal
code
of conduct is unlikely to directly address this type of damaging anti-educational content, or require projects to take action.
This may surprise some, but here are two examples, and if you
follow
the multiple language links in each, you will find many other
language
examples:
[1] Wikipedia article in Russian about "Negroid race" (Негроидная раса) and associates Negroid as being defined by genetics. Nowhere
in
the article is it explained that these are debunked racist
theories.
[2] Wikipedia article in Italian about "Mongoloid" (Mongoloide), defines being Mongoloid by physical characteristics and presents
it as
a scientific term with a section explaining how the Mogoloid race
is
geographically spread.
Unfortunately, as these outdated racist theories are Wikipedia articles, Wikimedia Commons still hosts multiple *user created* "racial maps" of the human race as if this were a current
scientific
race taxonomy for humans. These maps are not even required to have warnings that their content is scientific racism or why that's a
bad
thing.[3]
At the current time, nobody is solving this problem with systemic racism and I am unaware of the WMF funding a project that will take action to fix it, nor even tracking this repugnant material. The
idea
that we might still be vaguely talking about how bad it is that Wikipedia is being used to promote "Negroid race" as science in several years time, without any systematic action to get rid of it
or
at least correctly reformat the article to describe it as debunked, should alarm everyone concerned that donor's money is supporting
this
content.
Links
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%...
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Average_Ea...
Thanks, Fae -- faewik@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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