On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Philippe Beaudette < pbeaudette@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Aug 11, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
like suppression, it should be used only by stewards and community approved functionaries.
I'm confused. Are you suggesting that suppression is not used by staff?
Super protection can be used by staff, and was. Suppression can be used by staff as well, and regularly is. (For instance, if legal were to ask me to suppress an edit, under court order). It (suppression) is not a tool we use without careful consideration, but it is one we use. I should think the same would be true of superprotection- it's not to be used lightly but it is a tool in our belt.
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I think we're comparing apples to anvils here. Handling a legal issue using suppression (or protection, or now superprotection) is a far cry from using it to resolve a dispute to one's preferred outcome. That is, if nothing else, a massive expansion of what's normally been acceptable as an Office action, which have historically (and to my mind, properly) been reserved for cases that could put us in severe legal jeopardy if not immediately addressed. Those cases, while rare, are an appropriate use.
Standard full protection along with necessary suppressions, however, along with clear warnings indicating what's going on, has always been sufficient to handle those few cases. Superprotection wasn't designed with vanishingly rare Office legal actions that are already quite adequately handled in mind, and I think all of us here know that. It's another attempt to force unwanted changes, because apparently "We'll desysop you for implementing your community's decisions when we won't!" wasn't quite ham-fisted enough.