2006/9/29, Gianluigi Gamba gigamb@tin.it:
Gatto Nero, I understand your disappointment, but
- disappointing 7 teams out of 8 was unavoidable;
- the jury decided legitimately taking into account all the available
information they had - they have the right and the duty to consider geo-political strategies for better achieving the goals of the Foundation. And I might be wrong, bringing access to the free knowledge where such free knowledge is somehow obstacled is one of them.
suspicious innuendos about how the decision has been taken aren't of any help for anyone.
Oh Paginazero, per favore: la giuria ha deciso legittimamente? Dear Paginazero, this politically-correctness is starting to disgust me. I really am not so able to lie. My lie-ability level is really low, I can't stand lies over lies. I'm sorry.
Should we deny that Taipei has been shortlisted with no secure sponsorship at all? (Just read what their bid said about sponsor at the time of the shortlisting decision: "The bidding team has contacted several potential sponsors. Some of them have shown great interest in sponsoring Wikimania and covering the core expenses in total on venue, accommodation, and catering. If Taipei is selected as the host city for Wikimania 2007, the detailed sponsorship arrangement will be finalized. According to our conservative estimation, local sponsorship will be no less than NT$1,500,000 (US$45,600+)." http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimania_2007/Taipei&oldid=... ) Why then include Taipei and exclude the other? On which basis?
Should we deny that a bid has been choosen that copied even the idea of a logo from the Torino's bid? Even.
Should we deny that sj said Taipei was chosen 'cause "in the end they had the most surplus sponsorship, in fact"?
Should we deny that this decision caused a rift and quite a fight between the components of the jury?
Who all this denying should be of any help? The community, not even heard about what they thought about all this bid (and I talked with someone, lot of them preferred Torino, others - minus, but my memory could by fallacious - Alexandria, others - more minus - London)? Jimbo, or other WMF members? Or sj, maybe?
I prefer not to lie, and not to deny. I think is more useful find WHY and HOW all this could have been happened. And that's what I'd like to be done, more than talking about "maybe something in Torino in 2008, but wait - in 2008 there's Australia so... whatever, bye Turin, welcome Sidney".
Gatto Nero
(I started working on wiki full of idealistic thoughts of collaboration, correctness, and of working for a bigger aim. I'm really sick at seeing how much economic interests and politic there is here. Really sick.)