Nothing personal, but when tl;dr is given as a response, it indicates that there is something certainly substantial and probably interesting to be seen and understood--and possibly even used as the basis for action -- as in this case/.
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Nikola Smolenski smolensk@eunet.yu wrote:
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 21:52:37 George Herbert wrote:
Level two is more conceptual. Does a person who wants to create a page understand all that a "well done" page in Wikipedia should have? Can they explain what the idea is, and why it should have a page? Do they understand references and think about how to provide some?
To be really useful, a toolset that structures a "create page" button response should address some or all of these questions.
Have the output be not just a page, but a series of pages, which provide short inputs and do some useful things with them. Perhaps, for example:
"Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It exists to collect useful general information about all topics and make it freely available. But there are lots of things which don't belong in encyclopedias. Are you sure that the topic / article you want to create is really an encyclopedia article? Is it a word definition instead (link to Wictionary), or an image of some sort (link to commons), or (fill in some more). If your idea for an article is really an encyclopedia entry, click 'Yes' below to continue."
"Can you explain what this page / article will be about? What's the topic? Where did you learn about it? Please fill in the text box below with your idea of what this new article is about. This will be posted on the article's talk page to explain the purpose of the article."
"Wikipedia relies on outside references to verify information people post here. Can you provide the titles of some books or magazine articles, website URLs, or other sources which confirm what you are saying in the new article, in the text box below?"
"Wikipedia would like to have articles about all important and useful topics, but some topics (normal people, most small businesses, etc) just aren't important enough. Is your article something which people in other states or countries will find interesting and useful? Wikipedia has some policies on what we recommend as being notable enough for articles (link to policies). If you think this article idea is notable enough, please click 'Yes' below to continue."
"Wikipedia likes to have links from article to article. Are there other existing articles which you think this new article should connect to? List them below if you know of any."
"Wikipedia article start with a short introduction, then more details. Can you summarize what this article is about in one to three sentences, to start the article's introduction? Think about it and then fill in the introduction below if you can. Then click on 'Continue'."
"Ok, now let's create the actual article contents.... " (filled in template article, with introduction section inserted, and slightly textually processed references and see also sections).
And the final step drops the article rationale entry into the talk page as well, on article creation.
Does this process make sense?
tl;dr as I'm afraid most people would say :(
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